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Re: Trial SS1

Post by reliant-reviver » Tue Oct 04, 2011 8:45 pm

Actually I may be wrong on the MX-5 steels, the offset might be higher than I remember, in which case the Civic steels will probably be ok. MX5 steels are 14x5.5j which is the same as the std. SS1 alloys
BMW E30 steels are probably a safe bet as well.

Fit Ford RS2000 engine mounts rather than Land Rover ones, as the ford ones are the same size as original (longer than the LR ones) and are available in uprated shore.

Sump wise, the sump on my 1900 doesn't sit any lower than a 1300 or 1600 IIRC.


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Re: Trial SS1

Post by stevesims » Tue Oct 04, 2011 9:59 pm

I think the way ahead is for me to take a photo, the bit that is below the chasis is the sump plug not the whole tray.
I have got the morning off work tomorow so will it do then.



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Re: Trial SS1

Post by philhoward » Tue Oct 04, 2011 10:41 pm

The i-CVH (1800 and 1900) sumps are the same depth on the deep bit - its the shallow bit thats deeper (to miss the crank).

If you don't want the engine to move, use the LR mounts (you don't need the V8 ones) plus some spacers - 1/4" a side should do it to reach the original thickness. If raising the engine, the you need to either raise the gearbox by the same amount (not much space left at the top, so trial and error) or angle the diff by the same angle - dropping the rear mounts probably being the easiest. This stops the prop destroying itself. You're not talking much of a drop on the diff though - only a few mm without getting a tape and calculator out.


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Re: Trial SS1

Post by stevesims » Wed Oct 05, 2011 8:48 pm

I took some photos today of the sump, my plan is to make a skid plate to cover the sump area which means raising the engine.
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Re: Trial SS1

Post by scimjim » Wed Oct 05, 2011 9:00 pm

I'll take a pic of my 1600 sump height for you tomorrow Steve - it may be far easier to swap or modify the sump as suggested?


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Re: Trial SS1

Post by reliant-reviver » Wed Oct 05, 2011 9:02 pm

That's standard sump height in my view. Pair of Ford RS2000 engine mounts plus some spacers should see it sorted. Oh and a new uprated gearbox mount and spacer.


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Re: Trial SS1

Post by scimjim » Wed Oct 05, 2011 9:22 pm

do you have a link to the HD gearbox mounts Philip?


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Re: Trial SS1

Post by scimjim » Wed Oct 05, 2011 9:55 pm

many thanks Craig (ordered one) - for some reason I was visualising yellow poly mounts - think I've spent too long working on the Land Rover!


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Re: Trial SS1

Post by reliant-reviver » Thu Oct 06, 2011 9:30 am

Most places have a big mark up on 'em, but I've bought a couple from these guys who are a pretty low key Morgan specialist.


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Re: Trial SS1

Post by Roger Pennington » Thu Oct 06, 2011 10:10 am

For info, is there any way to tell the difference, apart from taking the sellers word for it?


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Re: Trial SS1

Post by scimjim » Thu Oct 06, 2011 10:13 am

standard ones will flex a small amount with hand pressure - 70 shore shouldn't move if you jumped up and down on it!


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Re: Trial SS1

Post by reliant-reviver » Thu Oct 06, 2011 2:58 pm

I have both, 45 and 70, and you can definitely feel more resistant when pushing a blunt implement into the rubber, just need to get round to fitting it!


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Re: Trial SS1

Post by Taggers » Thu Oct 06, 2011 3:22 pm

Is that mount the same as manual GTE? Looks very similar...

http://www.scimitarweb.co.uk/sgwrs/view ... 0&p=106821


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Re: Trial SS1

Post by Roger Pennington » Thu Oct 06, 2011 3:50 pm

Taggers wrote:Is that mount the same as manual GTE? Looks very similar...

http://www.scimitarweb.co.uk/sgwrs/view ... 0&p=106821
Indeed, that's why I asked the question - the mounts on fleabay look identical to the one I've just fitted to the Yellow Peril. Presumably they're not (from a hardness perspective), if the seller is to be believed, but it's not an obvious visual difference, and without the experience of having compared both, I don't suppose I'd know the difference if I had one in my hand - after all, my new one was *much* more solid than the one which came off (my only point of reference). However my new one was just the normal one sold by GW on their stand at Curborough, so was presumably a 45 shore one???????
Having said that, I'm not complaining, it must be a moot point whether a solid one would be a good thing on a car which does most of it's mileage on the road. I was just interested to know for future reference, and it would be certainly easier if there was some easy way to tell (eg colour, as Jim referred to earlier).

(ps. and also an auto GTE, just with a different number of spacers)


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