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battery for mk2 Sabre

Post by alan.wells » Mon Feb 11, 2019 11:39 pm

Sorry Jim,
Mist the fact that the battery is in the boot, but its a good fit for the SST, just misses the bonnet
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Post by scimjim » Tue Feb 12, 2019 12:04 am

Updated wiring diagrams here


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Post by scimjim » Tue Feb 12, 2019 6:27 am

Reliant’s version here (they didn’t tidy up the loom by removing 4 miles of wire like mateybass’s instructions in Roger’s link above)
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Also, how to make the headlights flash instead of the aux lights (or more importantly, if fitted, reverse the instructions and it’s how to make the aux lights flash instead of raising the headlights and flashing 30 seconds later)
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SECURE DRY STORAGE FOR YOUR SCIMITAR

Current: SE5 (8Ball), TI SS1 (snotty), 1600 SS1 (G97), 1600 SS1 (C686CCR), 2.5TD SE5a (diesel 5a), 6 x random other SS1s.
Previous: SE5, 3 x SE5a, 2 x SE6a, 3 x SE6b, GTC, 2.9i GTC, 3 x 1600 SS1, 1300 SS1, Mk1 Ti Sabre, Mk1.5 CVH Sabre
Chief mechanic for: 1400 K series SS1 (Megan3), 1400 CVH EFi SS1 (Grawpy), 1300 SS1 (Number One) & Sarah's coupe.
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Post by scimjim » Tue Feb 12, 2019 6:34 am

And here’s the standard WASO alarm/immobiliser wiring
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Current: SE5 (8Ball), TI SS1 (snotty), 1600 SS1 (G97), 1600 SS1 (C686CCR), 2.5TD SE5a (diesel 5a), 6 x random other SS1s.
Previous: SE5, 3 x SE5a, 2 x SE6a, 3 x SE6b, GTC, 2.9i GTC, 3 x 1600 SS1, 1300 SS1, Mk1 Ti Sabre, Mk1.5 CVH Sabre
Chief mechanic for: 1400 K series SS1 (Megan3), 1400 CVH EFi SS1 (Grawpy), 1300 SS1 (Number One) & Sarah's coupe.
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Post by Peter S » Tue Feb 12, 2019 10:03 am

Be aware the owner's handbook it's full of wishful thinking about what they hoped to do (once they had used up the old stock) :!: I think I still have mine which I could donate to a good cause.

Please also be aware of the fuel return pipe. On the Rover application it's 3" long and connected to a steel rail bolted to the manifold. The Reliant one is about 3ft long floating over the engine bay. The pipe softens, links and blocks the outlet at the end of the fuel rail, building up pressure (particularly at low revs with high fuel return) until it bursts the pipe.
How do I know, it happened to both of mine, I even drove one 20 yds after the explosion :oops:


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Post by philhoward » Tue Feb 12, 2019 11:46 am

I’m mid way through replacing my lines and not exactly the same routing as Reliant did so I get no kinks. I’ve also got a lot less flexible hose there despite it being replaced not too long ago and fell apart - horrible cloth covered rubbish. I won’t say where it came from or who fitted it.


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Post by Supersub » Tue Feb 12, 2019 11:48 am

Thanks guys - good advice and useful info.

Remind me - front and rear brakes. Which cars were they from. Understand from Leigh that rears are weeping and the front calipers have rusted pistons especially around the circumference where they meet the seals. Said that the front pads would need changing fairly soon and concerned that when he pushes the pistons back to accept new pads they would possibly leak. Can you get stainless pistons along with a seal kit?

Sorry fellas but will probably have a lot more questions to pester you with as the car gets sorted.

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Post by philhoward » Tue Feb 12, 2019 11:56 am

Rear brakes - Mk3 Escort (I used to say XR3 and van to get the right bits, but so many catalogues are wrong nowadays or only work on a reg number so it might be pot luck). Front calipers are early Metro (if standard), but fitted upside down (L is R, R is L). Pads "used" to be Metro Turbo spec - but that's when you used to be able to get the different compounds.


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Post by Supersub » Wed Feb 13, 2019 11:21 am

Is the bracket bolted to the block that the alternator is attached to a one piece casting or was it modded by Reliant. Reason I ask is that the one fitted to this engine has a welded bottom lug. The effect of this is that the when looking down on the alternator it does not sit parallel and square to the block and is tilted back at the top. The result is the belt does not run in line ie. not 90 deg to the front of the engine nor vertically. Not out by much but enough to be picked out when looking at it. Where the alternator is attached to the top lugs some spacers have been inserted but it does seem correct to me. Appreciate that I am not explaining this very well but my experience is that in general the alternator bolts directly onto the block or bracket without spacers. Doesn't seem to affect the running of the car but would have thought this wouldn't be doing the alternator pulley bearing much good in the long run as the belt does not run in line with the other engine pulleys.

If the bracket is at fault any suggestions as where I can get one.

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Post by philhoward » Wed Feb 13, 2019 11:27 am

If no-one can answer categorically in the meantime, I'll have a look at mine possibly this evening.


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Post by Supersub » Wed Feb 13, 2019 2:07 pm

Thanks Phil


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Post by Supersub » Fri Mar 01, 2019 11:01 am

Suggestions please for a replacement coil?

Phil - Didn't get any response to my enquiry re alternator bracket so can I be a pest and ask you to take a look at yours?

Thanks
Mike


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Post by philhoward » Fri Mar 01, 2019 11:06 am

Will get you a picture over the next day or two, Mike.


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Post by scimjim » Fri Mar 01, 2019 2:43 pm

Are you after pictures of the standard mount mike?
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SECURE DRY STORAGE FOR YOUR SCIMITAR

Current: SE5 (8Ball), TI SS1 (snotty), 1600 SS1 (G97), 1600 SS1 (C686CCR), 2.5TD SE5a (diesel 5a), 6 x random other SS1s.
Previous: SE5, 3 x SE5a, 2 x SE6a, 3 x SE6b, GTC, 2.9i GTC, 3 x 1600 SS1, 1300 SS1, Mk1 Ti Sabre, Mk1.5 CVH Sabre
Chief mechanic for: 1400 K series SS1 (Megan3), 1400 CVH EFi SS1 (Grawpy), 1300 SS1 (Number One) & Sarah's coupe.
CURE THE FAULT - NOT THE SYMPTOMS

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