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Questions on Registering GTE in Switzerland

Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2019 3:40 am
by ceUs
Hello everyone,
I fell in love with the beauty of shooting brakes quite a while ago. Amongst those also the lovely GTE models, of which esp. the SE5(/a) caught my eye. But as most here know it's not always easy getting them on the road, which is why I wanted to ask if anyone knows anything or anyone who has put a GTE on Swiss plates.
I've found a few German ones (lived there before), sadly the rules in CH are even tougher to my knowledge so far. So I'm trying to gather everything I can that brings me closer to bringing a GTE on Swiss plates and roads. For this reason I also don't want to limit to any specific model yet, as I first want to understand the circumstances, constraints and obstacles. Although the ultimate goal would be a SE5 or SE5a.

But at the moment my knowledge is scarce:
- I know of a SE5 or SE5a that sat in a barn in CH, was imported but never registered
- I know that there at least was a GTE (not sure about the model) registered in the Kanton Aargau, haven't managed to localise the holder/owner yet but still am working on it.

- I know that for cars first being put on the road before 1976 there should be an exhaust gas exemption
- I know that some of the rules are set by the Canton (I'm based in ZH)

- I heard that only having one, not two separated, break circuit could become an issue in some places of continental europe (also depends on exact model/year)

- I have no idea of CoCs (are they national? Or do foreign ones help?)...

So all in all my knowledge putting weird cars on the roads is limited at the moment, until now I've stuck to what was 'natively available on the market'.
I'd be very thankful for tips, hints, remarks, or whatever brings me closer to the goal.
Thanks!

Questions on Registering GTE in Switzerland

Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2019 8:39 am
by Rattling
That sounds an interesting thing to do ,I take it there are historic vehicles over there and therefore must be clubs for them ,might be a good idea to join a general car club and ask around in that . One of the conditions may well be that the cars have to be of original specification which will affect your purchase car in the future. I'm sure the Swiss authorities have the rules written down somewhere too so may be worth contacting them too,hope all goes well .

Questions on Registering GTE in Switzerland

Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2019 9:13 am
by peter freeman
There were two GTC's in Switzerland some years ago and I think Middlebridge 29 might live there - he was at last years International meeting in France. Hopefully someone will come up with more details for you. While we were in St Wolfgang a couple of years ago 30 Ferrari's came into town all of them from Switzerland and all but one new - I think a single GTE would attract more attention.

Questions on Registering GTE in Switzerland

Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2019 9:58 am
by Oldconn
There are literally hundreds of British classic cars in Switzerland , you can see them and meet all the owners at a huge meeting in Morges every year , usually in September.
Have a look at this article http://www.british-cars.ch/; get in touch with Chris Johnson on www.scimitarfr.net, he knows several of the existing Swiss owners. :D

Questions on Registering GTE in Switzerland

Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2019 10:20 am
by ceUs
Thank you already for the great hints and the warmest welcome :)! I'll get in touch with Chris and also scout the british-cars if I can spot a GTE.
I also found a hint on sporting-reliants to a guy who seemed to have restored an SE5 in Switzerland and could at least track down someone with the same, not so common, name in CH, so I'll try my luck there as well.

Overall there is plenty of expensive and rare, collectible cars (of all vintages) in Switzerland, yet the more down to earth cars can (also because of economical reasons) sometimes pose hurdles. I know that for example of the older VW T3 vans for example there is basically only the petrol version available as the diesel ones are so difficult to get registered in CH.

Questions on Registering GTE in Switzerland

Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2019 11:53 am
by Roger Pennington
Welcome, and good luck with your search :D Oldconn has beaten me to it, but I'd agree that Chris is the person to speak to regarding Scimitars in Switzerland.

Questions on Registering GTE in Switzerland

Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2019 1:53 pm
by Corky
I was in touch with the owner of this company http://www.bahmancars.ch/index.php based in Geneva a few years ago when he was looking to import a GTC. He's imported and sold a Coupe and an SE5 in the past.

Google street view = https://www.google.ch/maps/@46.1655294, ... 6656?hl=fr

Maybe he could help ?

Questions on Registering GTE in Switzerland

Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2019 2:41 pm
by erikscimitardemon
Bachman, or Marcus Tanner (Classic car connection?), Oli Hoffmann. The are the names coming to my mind. There used te be a Scimitar club in Switzerland. Alas Ihaven't heard form them in years.

Questions on Registering GTE in Switzerland

Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2019 4:28 pm
by ceUs
So just a quick update.

Thanks to all the tips and hints I've got first responses and general consensus is that for models registered before 1976 there should be managable obstacles (YAY! :D ), newer cars could become an issue due to emissions, but that would have to be investigated more in detail.
I'm now in direct contact with multiple owners, including the still active Scimitar Club of Switzerland, which according to a member represents more than 20 cars from all vintages. So all in all it I'd say: a successful research mission, now the search and rescue can begin!

So according to my information all kinds of Scimitars are represented in Switzerland: SE 4a, SE 5, SE 5a, SE 6, Middlebridge, SS1 (to just name the one's that were specifically mentioned to me). So far everyone involved was extremely helpful, this community (not only this here, but around the Reliants/Scimitars!) is amazing!

Questions on Registering GTE in Switzerland

Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2019 8:57 am
by erikscimitardemon
I know of a se5a in the Netherlands. It came up just yesterday.
Contact meif you want to know more.

Questions on Registering GTE in Switzerland

Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2019 7:29 pm
by Will Anderson
peter freeman wrote:
Sat Jan 26, 2019 9:13 am
I think Middlebridge 29 might live there
Sadly Louis had to sell MB29 due to ill health but she has a new and enthusiastic owner in France. I am not aware of any Middlebridges now in Switzerland but if you do find one let me know! :D

Questions on Registering GTE in Switzerland

Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2019 8:46 pm
by DARK STAR
I've been in touch direct but only just come across this thread.
There are dozens of Scimitars in Switzerland.
There were at least ten at Morges one year (but no SE5/a !)
Here is a selection of SE5/a, unfortunately very few with number plates which doesn't help to trace them :roll:

Questions on Registering GTE in Switzerland

Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2019 8:47 pm
by DARK STAR
part two

Questions on Registering GTE in Switzerland

Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2019 9:10 am
by Oldconn
I note 5 LHD!

Questions on Registering GTE in Switzerland

Posted: Mon Mar 25, 2019 7:16 pm
by Cerbera
To register an SE5 in Switzerland (at least until 1973) is no problem at all. According Swiss law, the 1st registration (based on the car documents) is relevant and not when the car was built ! The younger the car is the more problems you will have. The CoC (Certificate of Conformance in the EC/EU) is something that was introduced in about 1995. The Swiss authority would accept a CoC and if you would have such document it would also be no problem to register the car. But unfortunately no CoC for any Reliant car exists and it can also not be issued because the Company doesn't exist anymore. The manufacturer is the only one authorized to issue it, no dealer, no club.
You mentioned the brake system, from 1.1.1973 it is required to have an independent 2-circuit front/rear braking system. If your car hasn't you need to modify that. If the car is RHD you also need a left side wing mirror.

Let me know if you need more information.
Good luck, Peter