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Post by SJM » Sun Nov 10, 2019 2:41 pm

Does anyone one know please what the differences are between the front suspension vertical links on the SE5, SE6A & SE6B?

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Post by Coupe Racing » Sun Nov 10, 2019 3:10 pm

The stub axle for a start


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Post by SJM » Sun Nov 10, 2019 5:09 pm

The axle is not part of the link; it is a separate component.



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Post by gtcse8 » Sun Nov 10, 2019 5:19 pm

Stuart there are at least Four different types of Vert links.

They take different sized stub axles for a start, which is what CR was pointing out.
So therefore the tapered hole is different.
Some also have a different size of inner bearing/grease seal shoulder.

They will all have the same lower trunnion machined surface for LH and RH, and the top hole will accept all standard top ball joint.

The are mostly ALL machined from the same casting so don`t go on the casting numbers.


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Post by scimjim » Sun Nov 10, 2019 6:39 pm

I don’t think any of the changes to the vertical link coincide with model changeover points.

It’s the outer bearing that changed size Mark, are you sure the tapered hole changed size?


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Post by gtcse8 » Sun Nov 10, 2019 7:52 pm

Deffo Jim
Ask me how I know?. :W

Not near my emporium at present but as I reman stub axles I know they are different.
Will take some pics tomorrow to demonstrate. :drum:

Dennis Nicholas has talked extensively on the inner bearing and grease seal shoulders. :w


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Post by scimjim » Sun Nov 10, 2019 8:00 pm

Yes, the inner grease seal is different on later uprights (discussed long before Dennis removed his :D ) but I don’t recall discussing any other differences on here?


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Post by gtcse8 » Mon Nov 11, 2019 8:00 am

The Taper on the stubs have different diameters.
There are THREE different sizes of stubs to take different bearings.
First & last stubs.jpg
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Only Two shown here.
OR These.
Early link last stub fitted.jpg
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Early link mid stubb fitted.jpg
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Later stub .750 outer.jpg
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Last type stub 34inch outer.jpg
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Last type stub 27mm inner bearing.jpg
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Then we have AT LEAST Three combinations of Vertical link :w
Latest vertlink with early stub fitted.jpg
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Late vert with early stub.jpg
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Late combo no spacer.jpg
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Post by SJM » Tue Nov 12, 2019 7:13 pm

Thanks Mark & others for all the info!

Stuart



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