Mystery Car

For any general chat and banter.

Moderators: scimjim, philhoward, Lukeyboy46, erikscimitardemon, Roger Pennington

Post Reply
Stephenl
RSSOC Member
Posts: 484
Joined: Thu Nov 10, 2011 3:34 am
Location: California
Has thanked: 5 times
Been thanked: 10 times

Mystery Car

Post by Stephenl » Tue Nov 17, 2015 9:12 pm

How about this one guys? A few mention of early reliant or Ogle designs were made. I'm stumped.

Image


'69 SE5

windy
Posts: 1842
Joined: Sat Dec 31, 2011 2:01 pm
Location: Near Shrewsbury
Has thanked: 13 times
Been thanked: 41 times

Re: Mystery Car

Post by windy » Tue Nov 17, 2015 9:16 pm

Looks like a hard top coupe version of a Daimler Dart SP250?



User avatar
philhoward
RSSOC Member
Posts: 24817
Joined: Tue Aug 29, 2006 5:41 pm
Location: Staffs, UK
Has thanked: 50 times
Been thanked: 589 times
Contact:

Re: Mystery Car

Post by philhoward » Tue Nov 17, 2015 9:27 pm

The shape says something from the Harrington stable?


Phil Howard
Scimitarweb Forum Admin
SS1 1600 Rooster Turbo; Sabre Mk1.5, Sabre Mk2
Previous: SE5/5a/SS1 No.1/SS1 Rooster/SS1 1800Ti/SE5a 24 Valve
http://www.ss1turbo.com
Never try and argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level, then beat you based on experience.

User avatar
Elizabeth's dad
RSSOC Member
Posts: 3185
Joined: Fri Sep 14, 2007 9:16 pm
Location: Sunderland
Has thanked: 51 times
Been thanked: 50 times

Re: Mystery Car

Post by Elizabeth's dad » Tue Nov 17, 2015 9:33 pm

Hints of Alpine. Front screen could even be the rear window of the early type hard top.


Jim

Membership No. 1779
SE5/5a Registrar

User avatar
scimmy_man
RSSOC Member
Posts: 1778
Joined: Fri Jan 04, 2008 7:07 pm
Location: selby yorkshire
Has thanked: 5 times
Been thanked: 34 times

Re: Mystery Car

Post by scimmy_man » Tue Nov 17, 2015 9:58 pm

philhoward wrote:The shape says something from the Harrington stable?
I was thinking harrington alpine too

yup
https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=harri ... 80&bih=567


I've taken a vow of poverty ...... Annoy me by sending me money!!

User avatar
chrisgallacher
RSSOC Member
Posts: 750
Joined: Tue Oct 07, 2008 6:01 pm
Location: Four Marks, Hants
Has thanked: 40 times
Been thanked: 35 times

Re: Mystery Car

Post by chrisgallacher » Tue Nov 17, 2015 10:54 pm

I was thinking Clipper Trident but the front's all wrong...


Chris Gallacher
RSSOC Rally Secretary
rally.secretary@rssoc.co.uk

User avatar
Elizabeth's dad
RSSOC Member
Posts: 3185
Joined: Fri Sep 14, 2007 9:16 pm
Location: Sunderland
Has thanked: 51 times
Been thanked: 50 times

Re: Mystery Car

Post by Elizabeth's dad » Tue Nov 17, 2015 11:11 pm

The shut line of the door round the rear arch bothers me. I'm wondering if it's a modified 50s kit car on a swb chassis, Ford 8 for example. I'm wondering if I've got it in an old issue of Car Mechanics 'They Built it Themselves' section.


Jim

Membership No. 1779
SE5/5a Registrar

Stephenl
RSSOC Member
Posts: 484
Joined: Thu Nov 10, 2011 3:34 am
Location: California
Has thanked: 5 times
Been thanked: 10 times

Re: Mystery Car

Post by Stephenl » Tue Nov 17, 2015 11:14 pm

The door line around the arch is a weird one. it was also pointed out that it looks like it has got gull wing doors


'69 SE5

User avatar
Roger Pennington
RSSOC Member
Posts: 19848
Joined: Tue Aug 29, 2006 9:43 pm
Has thanked: 136 times
Been thanked: 502 times

Re: Mystery Car

Post by Roger Pennington » Wed Nov 18, 2015 1:12 am

I've certainly no idea what it is. I agree it has something of the look of the Harrington Alpines, but I've looked on a couple of Harrington websites, and none mention it. You could argue though, that that look was not too uncommon at the time, so some of the other suggestions sound plausible too. I agree that the doors look as though they might be gullwing (must be interesting around the windscreen), and it looks to me as though it possibly might be a one-piece flip front?

What really surprises me about the photo, it how all the passers-by seem to be completely oblivious to it :shock:


....Roger

RSSOC member (since 1982)
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Image

"Condition can be bought at any time; Originality, once lost, is gone forever" - Doug Nye

User avatar
Mateybass
Posts: 763
Joined: Mon Sep 06, 2010 2:47 am
Location: North Lincolnshire
Has thanked: 2 times
Been thanked: 10 times
Contact:

Re: Mystery Car

Post by Mateybass » Wed Nov 18, 2015 3:24 am

Having viewed the photo in zoom mode, I have a few observations which may or may not help.

The rake of the front bonnet seems too shallow for an engine under there... perhaps a rear engined car? It might explain the lack of rear quarter windows. The rear screen bottom edge also finishes higher up than you'd expect for a front engined coupe. It looks a bit like the rear screen of an Imp too.

The doors don't seem conventional. As suggested earlier, there is a shut line along the top edge of the windscreen suggesting gullwing doors but looking close up, is that a hinge cover on the rear shut line of the roof above the passenger seat? Does the whole roof and door assembly hinge backwards in one piece?

The wheelbase seems very short. The wheel trims look remarkably similar to Hillman Imp trims.

Is what we're looking at possibly an Imp based car?


1991 Reliant Scimitar SST 1400 number 39 - Skippy's Facebook Page
1999 Subaru Forester S-Turbo Auto (LT)


RSSOC member no. 6883

User avatar
tanuki
Posts: 1585
Joined: Sat Nov 23, 2013 11:09 pm
Location: Avon (F)
Has thanked: 46 times
Been thanked: 18 times

Re: Mystery Car

Post by tanuki » Wed Nov 18, 2015 7:16 am

Lovely period picture :D
Unfortunately I have no clue what the blue car could be :oops:
All I can identify beside the double-deckers is the tiny Anglia on the left - but I am biased :roll: :lol: :lol: -
Fred


now: Scimitar SE5 ('71), Scimitar SE6a ('79), Scimitar SST 1800Ti ('90), Ford Anglia LHD ('61), Ford Consul Capri LHD ('61), TVR Chimaera 400 ('96), Caterham SV ('10), Lexus IS200 ('04), Austin Metro 1000 ('82)
past: Mitsubishi Celeste ('77), Alfetta Quadrifoglio ('85), Nissan Maxima ('95)

steve bryant
Posts: 1909
Joined: Mon Feb 11, 2008 9:30 am
Location: port elizabeth South Africa
Has thanked: 20 times
Been thanked: 16 times

Re: Mystery Car

Post by steve bryant » Wed Nov 18, 2015 8:12 am

looking at the cars, buses and truck I would say a little early for a Hillman imp, but could be wrong, interesting doors



User avatar
scimjim
RSSOC Member
Posts: 37306
Joined: Sun Oct 01, 2006 10:08 pm
Location: Gloucester
Has thanked: 129 times
Been thanked: 938 times

Re: Mystery Car

Post by scimjim » Wed Nov 18, 2015 8:26 am

Similarities to this mystery car?

Ashley apparently did a gull wing version of their 750 - the nose of this car suggests (later) Ashley to me?

Also cues of the Cheetah?


Jim King

SECURE DRY STORAGE FOR YOUR SCIMITAR

Current: SE5 (8Ball), TI SS1 (snotty), 1600 SS1 (G97), 1600 SS1 (C686CCR), 2.5TD SE5a (diesel 5a), 6 x random other SS1s.
Previous: SE5, 3 x SE5a, 2 x SE6a, 3 x SE6b, GTC, 2.9i GTC, 3 x 1600 SS1, 1300 SS1, Mk1 Ti Sabre, Mk1.5 CVH Sabre
Chief mechanic for: 1400 K series SS1 (Megan3), 1400 CVH EFi SS1 (Grawpy), 1300 SS1 (Number One) & Sarah's coupe.
CURE THE FAULT - NOT THE SYMPTOMS

User avatar
toomanysabres
RIP
Posts: 5373
Joined: Sun Nov 12, 2006 1:27 pm
Location: Leatherhead
Has thanked: 14 times
Been thanked: 88 times

Re: Mystery Car

Post by toomanysabres » Wed Nov 18, 2015 8:40 am

I was also thinking Ashley at first, its a bit like a long nose Sabre/Sabra. The headlight shroud area seems angled a bit more forward than on a Sabre. I'd go with rear engine though.


Now: '62 Sabre 4, '63 Sabre Six, '65 SE4, '00 BMW E38 740i sport.
Prev: '53 ZephyrZodiac, '64 Sabra GT, '68 Elan S3SE, Mk3 Cortina 2000GXL, Mk4 Cortina 2000 Est, 3 SE6a's, 2 SE5a, SE4a Turbo, 1800Ti.
Company: Cav SRi, Cav SRi 130, Honda Concerto 1.6 (yuk)

User avatar
greeny
RSSOC Member
Posts: 5263
Joined: Wed Jun 02, 2010 7:25 pm
Location: Dukinfield Cheshire
Has thanked: 12 times
Been thanked: 108 times

Re: Mystery Car

Post by greeny » Wed Nov 18, 2015 10:53 am

scimjim wrote:Similarities to this mystery car?

Ashley apparently did a gull wing version of their 750 - the nose of this car suggests (later) Ashley to me?

Also cues of the Cheetah?

Looking at it I think your on the money Jim!


Babe the GTC number 229 and and Smurfett the 1400 SST. Ness the vw t4 van/dayvan/camper
Previous 3.0v6 X type jaguar triumph acclaim scimitar SE4A 663 (ex Collin Watson coupe) 2x se5a's 2x SS1 1600s and a load.of other things I can't remember!!!
GTC drivers doing it under canvas since 1981!!

Website scimitargtc.co.uk
12601 14846 18/09/12

Post Reply

Return to “Non-Technical Discussion”