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Why don't people fix anything any more ?

Post by Corky » Wed Sep 11, 2013 1:45 pm

I've been ill and off work for the last week :( , so was feeling pretty sorry for myself. This was made even worse when the TV decided it had had enough too, and went into permanent standby mode :evil:

Like I'm sure most people do nowadays, I thought that that was that and I'd have to replace it. After all there can't be that many parts inside a modern TV that can be fixed, can there ?

Anyway, I decided to have a look on Google and see if there were any know faults with Samsung LCD TVs that I should know about. As it turned out there is a very common fault, where the TV appears to stay in standby mode but makes a clicking sound. That's what mine was doing !

A few mouse clicks later and I'd found a YouTube video showing me how to repair it, and a kit on eBay with all the parts to fix it (5 X Capacitors, 1 X EEPROM, 1 length of solder wick and 20cm of solder). The kit was £7.98 delivered.



Faced with a choice of having it repaired professionally £££'s ?, A new TV for £600+ or a kit for under a tenner, well it doesn't take genius to work out that I'd go for the kit every time :lol: And of course I had plenty of time on my hands in between feeling ill and sleeping a lot.

The kit arrived pretty quickly, and it didn't take long to de-solder the capacitors (after checking they were discharged of course) and fit the new ones to the power board. I screwed the TV back together and expectantly pressed the ON button. It still clicked and the screen stayed black ......... bugger !
The next stage of the repair (if stage one wasn't successful) was to fit a new EEPROM to the main board. The chip has 8 prongs and measures approx 8mm long, so you can guess it was pretty fiddly to install. To make matters worse it was surface mounted, so I had to tape it down to tack on a couple of prongs. It was also very intricate and a real struggle to get just the right amount of solder on without shorting anything.
So I screwed it all back together, covered my eyes (it was either that or fingers in ears) and pressed the ON button again. :D Success, it only bloody worked 8)

I am most definitely not any sort of electronics expert. I know very little indeed. My soldering skills are pretty basic, but I do have a steady hand. I learnt how to do this repair solely by watching a couple of videos. If I can do it, I'm sure most people can.

Now this brings me back to the title of my post. Why don't people fix anything anymore ?

When I was kid I would always find my Dad fixing something around the house, be it a toaster, kettle, radio etc. My Grandfather was the same, he'd have a go at fixing anything, and quite often if he needed something he'd make it (You should've seen the photographic enlarger he built :D ). And these guys didn't have YouTube !

So far this year (from YouTube videos) I've fixed the dishwasher, the fridge, put a new battery in an iPhone and repaired my printer. All of these things were on the verge of being scrapped.

Am I just tight, or does anyone else do this ? :w
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Re: Why don't people fix anything any more ?

Post by manny » Wed Sep 11, 2013 2:14 pm

with you on that:

i fixed my smartphone touch screen, misses oven control panel, washing machine control panel.....as you state only because my father would be trying to fix stuff around the house, now damn social networks etc fixate kids...no hobbies.....

good fix...it's amazing what a mind can do once focused...



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Re: Why don't people fix anything any more ?

Post by Coupe Racing » Wed Sep 11, 2013 2:28 pm

Sky boxes have a similar fault and a similar fix .
Economically if it's worth trying then do it , otherwise recycle

Or alternatively in a disposable consumer driven society you might just see this as the excuse you need to get the latest model


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Re: Why don't people fix anything any more ?

Post by MickP » Wed Sep 11, 2013 2:29 pm

For years I have made a very good living fixing and maintaining old industrial equipment and you are right, no one (or very few) fixes (fix) things nowadays.

The job I do is not what I would call a good job but it is very well paid and secure as there is a very serious shortage of people with the right skills to be able to do it. Maintenance and repair is just not seen as glamorous enough to entice people into it, that together with the fact that most people just seem to have embraced the throwaway society I suppose.

There are some - like Scimitar owners 8) - who are fighting for the cause :lol: .

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Re: Why don't people fix anything any more ?

Post by philhoward » Wed Sep 11, 2013 2:35 pm

I'm managing to keep my boiler going with replacement parts and a bit of ingenuity along the way and if there's a fix for something, I'm all for it. Sadly the prices of some of the parts exceeds a replacement cost for some consumer items but that might well be designed into a product these days...and doesn't just apply to TVs etc.


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Re: Why don't people fix anything any more ?

Post by backpain » Wed Sep 11, 2013 2:46 pm

Yes I fix things like the oven,tumble dryer I even tried fixing old cars but not very good at that :D john


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Re: Why don't people fix anything any more ?

Post by Corky » Wed Sep 11, 2013 2:51 pm

Coupe' Racing wrote: Or alternatively in a disposable consumer driven society you might just see this as the excuse you need to get the latest model
That's very true. I've fancied one of those 3D Smart TV's for a while, and this would've been the perfect opportunity to convince swmbo that we needed one. Possibly it was an opportunity missed :lol: but I'm happier at the saving of a few hundred quid.


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Re: Why don't people fix anything any more ?

Post by gerryg » Wed Sep 11, 2013 3:14 pm

Our central heating system has an exterior oil storage tank (obviously) and has a sender unit to a receiver indoors. "Sorry, they're a sealed unit, so you'll need a new one.....£29" something plus Vat plus call out etc., My brain seems to work on the basis that; if it goes in, it can usually come out. Pick off plastic tape, knock brass end cap off using suitably sized ring spanner, tip out old batteries, replace with new, knock end cap back on and seal back up. Job done :-)



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Re: Why don't people fix anything any more ?

Post by Oaksey » Wed Sep 11, 2013 3:34 pm

gerryg wrote:Our central heating system has an exterior oil storage tank (obviously) and has a sender unit to a receiver indoors. "Sorry, they're a sealed unit, so you'll need a new one.....£29" something plus Vat plus call out etc., My brain seems to work on the basis that; if it goes in, it can usually come out. Pick off plastic tape, knock brass end cap off using suitably sized ring spanner, tip out old batteries, replace with new, knock end cap back on and seal back up. Job done :-)
Yes, like everything now, even cars. Modern Range Rover gearboxes have a little sticker by the drain and filler plugs saying "sealed for life" :lol:
manny wrote: now damn social networks etc fixate kids...no hobbies.....
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Re: Why don't people fix anything any more ?

Post by Coupe Racing » Wed Sep 11, 2013 3:35 pm

However if it comes to holding onto useless broken old poo just in case it could be used is at some point then that's a step too far


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Re: Why don't people fix anything any more ?

Post by scimjim » Wed Sep 11, 2013 4:32 pm

One reason for the disposable society we've become, is cost. For example, it's cheaper to buy a new printer from Tesco every couple of months, than it is to buy new ink cartridges!! It's cheaper to pay a "fitter" to replace a Range Rover gearbox if it goes wrong or wears out, than it is to train and maintain an " engineer".


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Re: Why don't people fix anything any more ?

Post by Terry H » Wed Sep 11, 2013 5:01 pm

I usually have a go at repairing something before chucking it on the principle that if it's already broke I cant brake it. I fixed my dishwasher after the extended waranty I was paying for paid out £250 for a replacement after the engineer said it was too old to get parts for. It was the pump packed in. I went on line to http://www.espares.co.uk/browse/ca1/kitchen-appliances and bought a pump for it for £20+ P+P and I've had it running now for 5 years. Also fitted a new screen and graphics card to a laptop for a freinds daughter who then told me she did'nt want it repaired so I had a £250 laptop for the cost of the parts. Other repairs include my halogen hob and my built in oven. Next job is my washer/dryer. I do sometimes have a go at cars, but not very good at that.
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Re: Why don't people fix anything any more ?

Post by ScimmyMike » Wed Sep 11, 2013 5:44 pm

Yes quite agree Steve, SEAT wanted £1500 off me when my cars ABS pump went, managed to get a £1200 contribution from them for it, now I am hearing that VAG group have wised up and are now repairing them, I could have had mine repaired but couldn't have had it removed, repaired and refitted for the money it cost me not to mention being without the car for maybe a week, sadly charging around the country, good as it sounds in a Scimitar, isn't really appealing to me, I like to enjoy the drive not do pitch battles on the M6 in them


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Re: Why don't people fix anything any more ?

Post by Gillsfan » Wed Sep 11, 2013 6:03 pm

I drive my wife mad, nothing in our house is broken until I've had it on bits to see if I can fix it. She would just like to get new stuff most of the time.


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Re: Why don't people fix anything any more ?

Post by swoakes » Wed Sep 11, 2013 6:16 pm

scimitarcars.org.uk wrote:That's very true. I've fancied one of those 3D Smart TV's for a while, and this would've been the perfect opportunity to convince swmbo that we needed one. Possibly it was an opportunity missed :lol: but I'm happier at the saving of a few hundred quid.
On the plus side fixing the TV must be worth a massive amount of brownie points with SWMBO


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