"I thought I'd just put the brakes together and drive it"...

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"I thought I'd just put the brakes together and drive it"...

Post by Pepe » Sun Apr 22, 2012 7:28 pm

Hey everybody,

I recently bought my first Scimitar GTE SE5a, unfortunately not drivable.
But it was more or less sold as "just put the brakes together...".

Well. It isn't as easy as that.
Plan is to restore here technically eventually. Body will not be laquered...well - up to now at least :)

Target is to convert her to LHD (Car is in Germany) - finally.

First milestones:
Front:
- Calipers and pads are worn, I also screwed a Bleednipple.
- All Bushes need to be done in the front.
- Most of the Screws need to be exchanged as they are not original size
- replace Steering rack (Austin 1800 RHD) for LHD or overhaul and service the old one

Rear:
- left Brakedrum was EMTPY! Also the Nuts that hold the bearing are missing! This of course needs treatment.
- Axle hopefully is ok otherwise. (Car has done around 131000mls)
- Handbrake cables have to be reassembled, serviced and re-adjusted

Fuel system:
A stainless steel tank has been fitted to the car which is not yet completely lined up.

Then Headliegts need to be done and Radiator tightened blablabla...

I hope besides this main points I hav it in a condition to test Engine and rear axle..

A ... BTW: I need a Frame outtrigger does QRB still have them?
O and something else: What measures do the Bleeding nipples on the standard 3 piston Girlings have? Some guys say they are fine thread M10 others say they are 3/8" UNF...


EDIT 20170122: During the runtime of this thread my imagehosting died 2 times:
1. Imageshack that I used changed it's user Surface to something unsuitable for me and als startet to want money for it... Finally leading almost the first half of this thread lost its image links.
2. Dropbox out of the blue (cloud) announced they'll cancel the "public" folder support that I since the imageshack issue went to. In dropbox I have a little more control over my photos posted here as I can directly control them from their windows Explorer App...

Bottom line is I need to re-post all the images or otherwise everything I've shared so far will be lost, which I don't want. It was equally hard work compared to the restoration itself... So I am going to edit the posts one by one and reinstall working image links. I hope it will work better THIS time...

Too, I decided to put some before|after pictures here to show how my Scim looked and now looks..

29.10.2017: Job done :) All lost dropbox links replaced. I hope dropbox does not do this so soon again... But you should now have the full thread back again :)

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Before restoration....:
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....and after:
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Re: "I thought I'd just put the brakes together and drive it

Post by scimmy_man » Sun Apr 22, 2012 8:37 pm

you may find an MGB rack easier, it needs to be rhd, to fit a lhd car,


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Re: "I thought I'd just put the brakes together and drive it

Post by Pepe » Mon Apr 23, 2012 11:15 pm

MGB does also fit? didn't know.

Does somebody know what ecaxt threat te bleed nipples of the 3 piston girlings is?


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Re: "I thought I'd just put the brakes together and drive it

Post by Pepe » Tue Aug 07, 2012 6:07 pm

Huuu... long time no update: I'd thought I'd summarize my project progress:

This is how she came in:
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This what she had so far:
Braking system:
Calipers were stuck. I took them apart, repaird on snapped of bleeding nipple, sandblasted them, bought new pistons and seals and soon they will be galvanised and ready to be re-assemled:
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Re: "I thought I'd just put the brakes together and drive it

Post by Pepe » Tue Aug 07, 2012 6:21 pm

OK... next one:
Still braking system:

Master Cylinder wasn't really moving.
So I bought a NOS part. With this i was also able to get the stuck pistons out of the calipers. The seal in the old BMC had swollen so it wasn't freele moving.
NEVER USE WD40 in such a thing :)

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Front seal crumbled to pieces
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next was the Servo. Guess what: it was NOT ok, leaking and full of brakefluid:
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Fluid soaking out the vaccum chamber...
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So I purchased a new powertune part after a lot of help from the forum, what bore etc. A new sealing kit was the same cost slmost .

Next was opening up the rear drumbrakes - revealing the following:
left - ok and new parts! correct wheelcylinder
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right - note castlenut and washer missing, wrong 5/8" or something wheelcylinder
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Cylinders compared...
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Re: "I thought I'd just put the brakes together and drive it

Post by Pepe » Tue Aug 07, 2012 6:40 pm

EVERYTING in the braking system was worn and sh*tty .

Rearaxle:
Here is the rear axle opened and dismantled from the car. This part seems to be ok. I still need to check the Bearings! Breather hole was full of muck, the brwon sauce in the diff smelled like hell and looked like liquid sh*t.
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Frontaxle:
The frontaxle was completely disassembled. Bushes worn, rusty parts, but bearing seemed to be ok. Also Fulcrums where fine
Parts were balsted and then primed with so called "owagrundol" which is an anti rust primer for chassis laquer. This is available in Germany and seems to be good.
I will see...
Fulcrums new :)
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upright threads. One looks new, the other worn... Trunnions were ok...
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wishbones before sandblasting. Left side was bend, so I had to get used parts from a TR6.
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...and after. Coat of Owagrundol applied
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upright and parts before blasting...
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...and after. They got a coat of Owagrundol primer after this
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hanging out to dry...
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Re: "I thought I'd just put the brakes together and drive it

Post by Pepe » Tue Aug 07, 2012 7:00 pm

Suspension:
next the springs. She had Spax in front and somewhat Monroe rar. Badly painted and very rusted.
See yourself. I ordered an adjustable custommade GAZ suspension...
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sagged bushes
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Steering rack:
well. what do I tell you. WORN! equipped with a Ford Plastic Bush, that has left enough play in the rack to accomodate an elephant in it!
Worn ballhousings. Somebody had tried to repair the rack already. Marks of hammers, chisels and vices...
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worn Trackrod ends. No grease in it. Not a single gramm!
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Blasted, primed and painted with Chassis lacquer: Rack tube.
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More parts made up!
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Re: "I thought I'd just put the brakes together and drive it

Post by Pepe » Tue Aug 07, 2012 7:05 pm

Frontsuspension - next epidose:
I was VERY VERY lucky I sandbasted the parts.
Otherwise I would never have seen the CRACKS! in the wishbone brackets!!
Sure. Two of them could have been damaged (they were also bent!), while the lower wishbones have been damaged. But one of the right hand side was through, too. It is hardly seen on the pics but a hairfine one is there.
They go in the bin, all except on that I keep as a spare. Will by reinforced parts from QRG.

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"I thought I'd just put the brakes together and drive it"...

Post by Pepe » Tue Aug 07, 2012 7:12 pm

with no legs and eyes :)
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my new best friend - our Blasting chamber. Paired with its buddy - a 4kW compressor with a tank-as-large-as-the-earth, they from a good team.
The old seat cover is good to hide under to eliminate glaring daylight and at least guess where the part is in the sandstorm down your hands with a light equal to a candle in the stomach of a whale!
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Post by Pepe » Tue Aug 07, 2012 7:14 pm

updates to follow. Will go order parts at QRG now...


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Post by erikscimitardemon » Tue Aug 07, 2012 7:40 pm

Keep up the good work!
I hope to see the result one day.


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Re: "I thought I'd just put the brakes together and drive it

Post by reliant-reviver » Wed Aug 08, 2012 9:19 am

I have the exact same blasting cabinet... just a little less shiney

What is your gun arrangement, and also what do you use for extraction? I find the Dyson vaccum cleaner I have is too strong and doesn't lik ethe fine dust, and I'm getting sick and tired of my external pressure pot blaster always blocking, do the gun type work well?


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Re: "I thought I'd just put the brakes together and drive it

Post by AJL Electronics » Wed Aug 08, 2012 9:21 am

Well I have given up using mine, it seems very weak, the filters block quickly and it isn't easy to see what you are doing.


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Re: "I thought I'd just put the brakes together and drive it

Post by Pepe » Thu Aug 09, 2012 10:36 am

reliant-reviver wrote:I have the exact same blasting cabinet... just a little less shiney

What is your gun arrangement, and also what do you use for extraction? I find the Dyson vaccum cleaner I have is too strong and doesn't lik ethe fine dust, and I'm getting sick and tired of my external pressure pot blaster always blocking, do the gun type work well?
Well the blasting cabinet is pretty new that's why it is still a little shiny :)
We use an old "industry" Kärcher Vaccuum Cleaner, which seems to have a bigger particle filter. We bought it for 30€ on eBay, we'll see how long it will last.
It does not really work well, too. But it is better than nothing.
I have heard that if you have the pressured air anyway it it also a good way to suck out the fumes of the chamber and press it through a water can or so...

What it helps is to get the chamber free of fumes relatively quickly after blasting.

What makes the difference i think is a good strong light and exchanging your visor protection sheets on a regular basis...

Sometimes the gun gets blocked by a larger particle, then pressing it against your ball of thumb and shoot. This blows any residue out into the blasting material tank again.

It worked quite fine so far. But I really should mention that the Comporessor we have is not of this earth: in weight, in tank size, in current consumption :) We bought it of ebay. That part weights around 500kg.... 12 bar is nothing to it it can easy do 16....
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Re: "I thought I'd just put the brakes together and drive it

Post by AndyD » Thu Aug 09, 2012 10:48 am

great work pepe!

First time I've seen this thread... love it!

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