1987 SS1 Ti Ride height adjustments

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1987 SS1 Ti Ride height adjustments

Post by swoakes » Wed Jan 12, 2011 8:21 pm

I have finally received delivery of my new SS1 today. I actually bought the car in late November last year unseen following a tip off from Jim and Roger on this site. The day after I bought it the snow arrived and then Xmas so it has taken ages to arrange transport from the south cost to the North West. The car is pretty much as I expected; rotten window frames and headlights not going down as the owner had said plus a few other issues not known to me. Heater fan does not work and the boot does not latch shut; hopefully both easy fixes. The interior is in a bit of a state and the engine bay needs a good clean and the wiring tidying.

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Not sure what my plans are yet. I had thought of using the car for shows and maybe the odd track day BUT with the state of the window frames and the interior it will take a fair bit of work to tidy up. Another option might be to remove the window frames, glass and lift mechanisms from doors and fit removable perspex panels for weather protection. I expect most of my driving to be in the dry with top down anyway so do I really need windows (the MG Midget I have just sold never went out in the wet). Any other ideas welcome. I am hoping the headlights are just bad connections; motors are relatively new and one headlight dropped today when I messed with the wiring so fingers crossed. The heater fan fuse had been removed for some reason; I refitted but still did not operate. I will check the wiring to the blower motor tomorrow. What else could it be.

I will keep you posted on progress.

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Re: 1987 SS1 Ti

Post by super66 » Wed Jan 12, 2011 9:00 pm

That looks tidy! I'm sure you will manage to fix all the problems it has.
Always fancied an 1800ti, never been in one but heard good things about them.
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Re: 1987 SS1 Ti

Post by swoakes » Wed Jan 12, 2011 9:26 pm

I think as always photos make it look better than it actually is. With a good wash, t-cut and polish the exterior will look pretty good. The interior needs work and a good clean and engine bay needs a good clean and repaint of rusted covers etc. Should be fun. Thanks Steve


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Re: 1987 SS1 Ti

Post by CNHSS1 » Wed Jan 12, 2011 9:49 pm

try winding the motors up and down manually a number of times with ignition off (read loads of times...). The contacts are self wiping, so they may just spring into life. Also try with ign on and switched up and often can find a clean bit during the cycle and start working. Often if an SS1 has been stood for a while, its just a bit of encouragement needed to get them working again.

also check the little red button for the over-current cut-out for the lift motors under dash clock set (R/H side) hasnt popped. They often trip if the motors are playing silly buggers.

good luck, was sorely tempted with that car myself but divorce and keeping my wedding tackle intact prevented me :lol:


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Re: 1987 SS1 Ti

Post by swoakes » Thu Jan 13, 2011 11:04 am

Thanks for the advice on the headlights I'll have a go later.

Another thing I noticed about the car was a loud wiring and gurgling sound from the passenger side rear of the car. I assume that this is the electric fuel pump; it runs continuously with the ignition on and engine not running. Is this normal? Also it is very loud; is this the sign of a pump on its way out or a sign of another problem? Steve


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Re: 1987 SS1 Ti

Post by reliant-reviver » Thu Jan 13, 2011 11:20 am

That'll be the electric fuel pump for sure. There is very little insulation between you and the pump, and as such they are usually pretty audible. Whilst some pumps are more noisy than others, it could be a sign of a worn or failing pump, especially if the car has been stood. New pumps can be had on Ebay from around £25, but I'd be tempted to leave the one you've got till it fails (if it fails!)


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Re: 1987 SS1 Ti

Post by CNHSS1 » Thu Jan 13, 2011 11:41 am

it shouldnt run with ign on but bengine not cranking. should run for few seconds 5-7 from memory, to prime and pressurise system, then stop. Dizzy crank angle sensor then fires pump up when engine cranked over


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Re: 1987 SS1 Ti

Post by swoakes » Thu Jan 13, 2011 5:21 pm

OK. I'm sure mine runs (well makes a noise continually) when the ignition is on. I will check again tomorrow. So if it runs all the time ignition is on what is at fault? Thanks Steve


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Re: 1987 SS1 Ti

Post by scimjim » Thu Jan 13, 2011 6:11 pm

either the pump isn't pumping, there's a leak, or the fuel rail pressure switch has failed - it could also be an ECU problem as that must switch the pump off when the pressure switch makes. It could also be a wiring problem in the pressure switch/ECU loom.


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Re: 1987 SS1 Ti

Post by Roger Pennington » Thu Jan 13, 2011 6:19 pm

I know nothing about the Ti, but could it also be trying to pump air if the tank's almost empty?

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Re: 1987 SS1 Ti

Post by petesilcock » Thu Jan 13, 2011 6:47 pm

Mine runs with ignition on as the contact on the ECU was burnt so now bypassed
If that is the case a crash switch must be fitted

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Re: 1987 SS1 Ti

Post by swoakes » Thu Jan 13, 2011 8:46 pm

I am hoping that Roger has hit the nail on the head. The fuel level light is on and you can hear fuel gurgling. I am going to top it up tomorrow and see if that helps both with noise and the continuous running. So if it still runs I could just fit an inertia switch into the supply to the pump to cut supply in the event of a fuel pipe fracture/ leak? Steve


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Re: 1987 SS1 Ti

Post by scimjim » Thu Jan 13, 2011 9:16 pm

you'll hopefully find that with some fuel in the tank, it'll build up pressure and the switch will cut the supply to the pump (via the ECU) as it should.


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Re: 1987 SS1 Ti

Post by swoakes » Thu Jan 13, 2011 11:36 pm

Thanks Jim ,everything crossed!

On another matter; didn't all Ti's have a boot spoiler? Not sure where mine has gone :?: Is it correct that an MR2 (Mk1?) spoiler can be fitted. Does it need modifying :?:

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Re: 1987 SS1 Ti

Post by reliant-reviver » Thu Jan 13, 2011 11:44 pm

All TI's had the rubber boot spoiler. Most of which are looking very shabby today as the metal rod inside corrodes and bursts through. MR2 spoilers can be fitted, but require some fetteling and may not look "right" depending on your tastes.


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