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Post by Corky » Sat Aug 10, 2019 11:54 pm

Oh ‘eck...... I feel your pain.

Good luck with the fixes.


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Post by efi_sprintgte » Sun Aug 11, 2019 6:04 am

:( :(
Oh f**k, I take it you didn’t get hurt?


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Post by CNHSS1 » Sun Aug 11, 2019 8:42 am

Much as would love to rip into Ben suggesting it was his lack of finesse at driving, only being used to those 'van-like' GTE bread Van's, it pains me to say I cannot. Almost the whole field started on slicks, the right tyre for the conditions, a few were more road based and ran road tyres, but the first lap saw the pole sitter swap ends at Old Hairpin and be avoided by everyone. Approx 70% of the field went off, some of them such as Honda Civic Typr R, Clio Cup car and an MR2, enjoyed the experience so much they did it multiple times, sometimes on same lap!! A 4wd impreza went off too, so shows the lack of grip. To be fair, most of Donnigtons track furniture is away from harming the cars, Ben was a little unlucky as when he exited stage right, the barriers actually came back toward his angle of trajectory, collecting him up as he tried to steer the car gently away. Nearly got away with it, but downhill on sodden grass meant near zero steering and no retardation. Anyway enough of not being able to take the p155 out of him! Finn, Danny and I watched the impact, and were relieved to see BG hop out and be walked to the ambulance where they checked for signs of brain damage and found the level was the same as prior to race start :lol: :lol: so was allowed to go to walk back to the car and stand in the rain watching everyone else slither off--good of them I thought.
Danny was concerned for his mate, I was worried how much tank tape it would take to get the car back out, and if the track side shop had the correct shade of blue...
We arrived back in the paddock just before the low loader brought back the car and pilot. Once unloaded, I was reasonably sure we could straighten bits out, once the panels were off, even a tweaked trailing arm giving too much toe could be adjusted out with the rosejoints :) unfortunately a twist in the steel under the cage foot would stop the Scrutes allowing it to run in Race 2 so Danny suggested loading up and getting back to his workshop, but then the damaged brake pipe along with the trailing arm adjustment needed, just meant even 3 of us couldn't do it in the 2.5hrs till next race. Had it been 2nd race sunday instead, Danny would've had it back out I'm sure


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Post by swoakes » Sun Aug 11, 2019 9:05 am

Bugger. Car looked to be going well too.

Good luck getting it sorted


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Post by turbster » Sun Aug 11, 2019 9:10 am

Hmm, feared the worse having got to the live timing late and seen your four laps and the conditions/lap times.. Glad you’re ok and the car’s not as bad as it looks.


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Post by b.c.flat hat » Sun Aug 11, 2019 10:10 am

It's only metal so, come on lad, there's still fun t' be had. An' don't spend too much time makin' it pretty this time! An' don't listen t' that non-driver fra Shrewsbury! See yer soon, Crusty (with the workin' compie car!)



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Post by MikeyBikey » Sun Aug 11, 2019 10:33 am

Bummer.
Ben,. doing my engine conversion has made me realise just how much work there is to do with something like this, and translating that, how much work you have actually done. So feel your pain re the damage but I'm sure you'll put it right and be back out in no time.


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Post by BigBobPilot » Sun Aug 11, 2019 11:07 am

In answer:

Yes, I'm fine, no issues at all.

It will be fixed & back out. I've not spent ages building it just to halt at the first hurdle. Anyway, I need to work through the issues (by using it) so it's a stable platform before it gets the next level engine in it.


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Post by scimjim » Sun Aug 11, 2019 1:25 pm

BigBobPilot wrote:
Sat Aug 10, 2019 11:25 pm
scimjim wrote:
Sat Aug 10, 2019 11:23 pm
Bugger - shout if you need any bits :-)
You got in whilst I was composing a pm to you Jim. Thank you.
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Post by CNHSS1 » Sun Aug 11, 2019 1:44 pm

BigBobPilot wrote:
Sun Aug 11, 2019 11:07 am


Anyway, I need to work through the issues (by using it) so it's a stable platform before it gets the next level engine in it.
Cars a stable platform, driver, errrrrr.... :lol:


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Post by CNHSS1 » Sun Aug 11, 2019 1:45 pm

Car was very good, Ben was coming up nicely through the field without pushing. With the planned aero and next seasons planned engine itll be even more awesome! 8) 8)


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Post by BigBobPilot » Mon Aug 12, 2019 10:50 pm

I had a trip to Jim King’s parts emporium today to collect:

A rear armature
A deck panel
A LH rear wing
A rear light panel
A LH rear light
A boot lid (handily already single skinned)

All loaded up, thanks again Jim.
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I stopped off on the way home for some Sikaflex & some flexible bumper filler.

Back to my workshop and a little washing done. I was fortunate that Jim had the colours I needed! Any colour will do.
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I’ve glued some backing plates over the holes I don’t need in the deck panel & rear light panel, so the holes can be filled over.
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Post by BigBobPilot » Tue Aug 13, 2019 10:02 pm

After all the petrol was pumped out the tanks & system, the fuel tank, swirl pot, pipes, filters & pumps came off. That was pretty simple all the work on the tank cradle & the mounts for everything made it very straight forward. I've plugged the feed & return pipes, so there is no fuel vapour around the back-end when I'm cutting & welding.

The bent bit of chassis is now cut off, so it's a zero over-hang car now. There's a little bit of bucked C-section under the rear 2 bolts of the LH roll cage mount to sort out, but that should be straight forward. The rear section of chassis really is of very limited structural integrity, but that probably helped in this situation with a little bit of energy dissipation.
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I've started prepping a few of the other bits too.


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Post by CNHSS1 » Tue Aug 13, 2019 10:54 pm

For those not versed in Automotive Engineer parlance, "The rear section of chassis really is of very limited structural integrity" actually means its crap, and as much use as a handbrake on a canoe... :lol: :lol:

Is it just me that wants to see if you reverse up to a wall and the tyres touch first, will it drive up and flip over???...

I'll get my coat... :mrgreen:


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Post by BigBobPilot » Tue Aug 13, 2019 11:12 pm

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