Newbie - recommended sprint events to compete in

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Newbie - recommended sprint events to compete in

Post by MikeyBikey » Fri Aug 30, 2013 7:57 pm

Please don't read too much into this but i want to try to find out whats feasible for me to participate next year. :shock:
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I'm a long way down country so before i even start miles is an issue (I'd be driving the car to the events). So i'm trying to decide, for a first year, what events would offer good experience / value for money.
(I'm 200 miles away from bristol (south west)

for example harewood in 780 mile round trip.

the closest is wiscombe, 250 miles.

Curbs, for me is 560 mile round trip

the other costs are fixed (car prep, suits, etc etc.)

i don't mind the time or the journey but i just want to find if i'm doing a 500 mile trip is to a worthwhile event (not a 20 second sprint !)


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Re: Newbie - recommended sprint events to compete in

Post by scimjim » Fri Aug 30, 2013 8:01 pm

Wiscombe, Gurston, Castle Combe, Prescott are all "reasonably" close - and great hills IMHO, I wouldn't try to justify costs against time on track or you'll never enter a sprint :D


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Re: Newbie - recommended sprint events to compete in

Post by Corky » Fri Aug 30, 2013 8:02 pm

I think Anglesey should be on your list. It's basically a whole weekend of sprinting on a "proper" race track. Arrive Friday, go home Sunday (or Monday).... Therefore, it should be worth putting in the miles.

It's free camping with excellent facilities (Hot showers / Restaurant / Bar etc.)

Edit:- It counts as two sprints in the championship, and I don't think you get as many track miles at any other event. It is tremendous value for money.


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Re: Newbie - recommended sprint events to compete in

Post by CNHSS1 » Fri Aug 30, 2013 8:12 pm

agree with Jims list and Steves idea re Anglesey. Sprints Saturday and sunday with trackdays Friday and Monday usually, so you could make a long weekend of it :-)

camping and good facilities on site too.

if you fancy another hill, id recommend Loton Park too but hardly local for ya


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Re: Newbie - recommended sprint events to compete in

Post by MikeyBikey » Fri Aug 30, 2013 8:23 pm

thanks all.

There's a local sprint (in cornwall) that is well known but 20 odd seconds !!. I wanted to try to weedle those out.

also when i looked at the list on our website some are a long way away so its just striking a balance

and anglesey isn't listed ?

http://www.scimitarweb.co.uk/index.php? ... ompetition

although i know from this site how good it was this year


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Re: Newbie - recommended sprint events to compete in

Post by scimjim » Fri Aug 30, 2013 8:26 pm

Anglesey is Tycroes (or Ty-Croes)


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Re: Newbie - recommended sprint events to compete in

Post by philhoward » Sat Aug 31, 2013 7:02 am

There is another "double header" weekend across 2 venues? Maybe that would help?


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Re: Newbie - recommended sprint events to compete in

Post by Nick » Sat Aug 31, 2013 8:08 am

Mike,

To be "invited" to any event you need to be a member of an "invited" club. Clearly as an RSSOC member you are "invited" to all our Championship events, but also a number of others.

In choosing it looks like you will think about/ distance from you/track time/entry cost.

Wiscombe has a spacial atmosphere if you have not been there
Gurston also but is quite a short track.
Castle Combe is a good one. why not come and have a look on the 19th October when some Scims will be there.
I agree that "double headers" like Anglesey provide good track time if you can stay over cheaply.
Goodwood is stunning to drive with great Atmosphere and quite long, but not cheap
Our Curbs and test days give you plenty of track time at moderate cost.
The les well known venues ( Aintree/MIRA/Debden) can be a bit more "welcoming" and give you more runs.

From where you are I would do:

Curbs test April
Anglesey double May
Goodwood June
Curbs test/sprint August
Wiscombe Sept
Castle Combe Oct

If you want to add another, Prescott Sept


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Re: Newbie - recommended sprint events to compete in

Post by MikeyBikey » Sat Aug 31, 2013 8:16 am

Is the castle coombe event a sprint or circuit affair. (I have been there and know the circuit.)


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Re: Newbie - recommended sprint events to compete in

Post by Nick » Sat Aug 31, 2013 8:17 am

This event is a sprint. I anticipate a number of Scim entries.


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Re: Newbie - recommended sprint events to compete in

Post by CNHSS1 » Sat Aug 31, 2013 8:43 am

Combe is a sprint from standing start of just over 1 lap


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Re: Newbie - recommended sprint events to compete in

Post by CNHSS1 » Sat Aug 31, 2013 8:56 am

Track time is always low as its the natur of the discipline, generally 40seconds to 80 seconds per run and you generally get 4 per day. If you want miles per quid, then trackdays or test days (such as Club run ones at Curbs) or Circuit racing are better.

Personally track/test day lappery is fun but isnt competitive so theres not the same adrenalne buzz.

A nukber of Scimitar compies have moved on to do circuit racing, and some still sprint/hills too. With circuit racing to deal with tye extra lappery you really need a car built for the task, almost all are pretty much ground up builds, bigger brakes, full cages, pro built engines ( no handicapping factor, cheque book will take a bashing) and you will have to life parts each season due to wear rates.
Sprints and hills needs a lesser prepped car, generally a standardish car will suffice (safety additions notwithstanding). I would try sprints and hills first and if the lappery is an issue and you have enjoyed the competition element, it makes a great feeder into circuit racing.

Another point to consider re sprints/hills is that only you can damage your car, with track days or circuit racing you can become part of someone elses accident and destroy your car through no fault of your own.

If interested in circuit racing, speak to the likes of Ben Gough, Paul Turnbull who have bothe raced competitively at the front in the CSCC Swinging Sixties series or John Louch & Iain 'Danny' Daniels who seem to buold and prep half the field!


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Re: Newbie - recommended sprint events to compete in

Post by MikeyBikey » Sat Aug 31, 2013 9:30 am

thanks.

For me half the buzz is the car prep / anticipation and the adrenaline consumed at curbs test days is considerable !!

I'm trying to just sort out a feasible plan before making that decision. I looked a the events in the calendar and (still can't see anglesey listed) , the return distance for me is almost 8000 miles :shock: although in reality would not attend all 14 events


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Re: Newbie - recommended sprint events to compete in

Post by scimjim » Sat Aug 31, 2013 9:34 am

MikeyBikey wrote:thanks.

For me half the buzz is the car prep / anticipation and the adrenaline consumed at curbs test days is considerable !!

I'm trying to just sort out a feasible plan before making that decision. I looked a the events in the calendar and (still can't see anglesey listed) , the return distance for me is almost 8000 miles :shock: although in reality would not attend all 14 events
Which calendar are you looking at?

viewtopic.php?f=82&t=13159

Edit - ah this one seems to have been edited to remove anything pre-June :D


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Re: Newbie - recommended sprint events to compete in

Post by CNHSS1 » Sat Aug 31, 2013 9:36 am

Anglesey (Ty Croes) was may 4th/5th this year, likely to be in early May next year if history is anything to go by

Re distances it is the disadvantage of a National Championship but many championships would kill to do the range of events we do, all the major hills, sprint circuuts and race circuuts 8)


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