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Re: Loton Park July 2013

Post by philhoward » Mon Jul 15, 2013 11:29 am

Weighs more than a bread van but more power than the Death Star...interesting combo for the SSSC handicap ;)


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Re: Loton Park July 2013

Post by Nick » Mon Jul 15, 2013 11:29 am

Craig,

Apologies, you are correct. :oops:

Power and weight as per your data


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Re: Loton Park July 2013

Post by CNHSS1 » Mon Jul 15, 2013 11:29 am

OK, quick resume of my weekend.

Saturday, my good friend and one-time on track major rival, Ben Gough (driver of Big Bob) came down for some last minute prep of the newly acquired ex-Stew Bramham Sabre Turbo twincam.
Few miles on back roads showed it a little skittish on cambered undulating surfaces (a la Hillclimb) so few educated guesses on damper rates and tyre pressures and we were ready for sunday.

First practice and a 67s run was rather pleasing :-) despite a rather deep entry into Triangle bend and lockup :oops:

2nd run, missed gear on launch (1st to 2nd) and a bit deep into Triangle again, missed gear 2nd to 3rd out of Triangle (have video from Claire of cannon-like bang and shoot of soot from exhaust!) then missed gear on exit of the Esses (2nd to 3rd) and had fuel surge out of Museum, so tad slower :x

At lunchtime, removed door numbers and popped to local garage and slapped 25 litres of V-Power Nitro+ in, wasn't gonna suffer surge again! :evil:

3rd run, engaged brain a bit more, 3rd gear again through Loggerheads, carried more speed, used more raod on exit of Fletchers Dellow neater into Triangle, still a bit deep, but trying to apex late and straighten exit. Missed 2nd to 3rd on exit of Esses again (actually hit 5th, back to 2nd, then 3rd :roll: ) but good run into Fallow and good neat run through Museum and into finish, with a reasonable 65s.

4th run, pretty much more of the same, missed gears even though id removed gaiter thinking it may have been restricting the lever movement, and bit of a ksip/hop over first bump before Fallow, upsetting car (and driver...) into the left hander resulting in 'arm and a half' of opposite lock out of fallow which lost time.

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brilliant weekend! :D great to catch up with me old mucker Ben, batting ideas and problems around with him 8) and good to be back in the saddle, although Ben suggested the car looked more Bucking Bronco than race horse at the moment :lol:

I have a list of things to check to get the handling where it needs to be, alignment, ride height checks, brake checks etc but should be better for Curborough :D

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Re: Loton Park July 2013

Post by CNHSS1 » Mon Jul 15, 2013 11:30 am

philhoward wrote:Weighs more than a bread van but more power than the Death Star...interesting combo for the SSSC handicap ;)
no, crap combo for handicap, but sooooo cool to drive :shock: 8) any car that accelerates like summat from Star Wars is worth getting my ar5e kicked in the handicap stakes :lol:


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Re: Loton Park July 2013

Post by philhoward » Mon Jul 15, 2013 11:32 am

Power corrupts....and absolute power corrupts absolutely! Sound like the perfect combo to blow the cobwebs away - and fun by the sounds of it :mrgreen:


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Re: Loton Park July 2013

Post by Nick » Mon Jul 15, 2013 11:33 am

Sounds like my patent 5th/reverse gate cover may be needed :oops:


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Re: Loton Park July 2013

Post by CNHSS1 » Mon Jul 15, 2013 11:37 am

scimitarcars.org.uk wrote:One thing I am really interested in, is how 360bhp of DET on road tyres with an experienced driver stacks up against 220bhp DET on 1Bs with a relative rookie at the wheel. The handicap comparisons may give me a sporting chance, but outright times will be interesting.
well Steve, you have your answer, experience couldn't make up for much on the day :oops:

I have to say I was impressed with the grip of the road tyres on mine, but the suspension needs a few tweaks (nowt major) for the cambered, undulations of a hillclimb. Once i've tweaked a few things, I may well try another Loton event before year end to see if I can get into the 63s.
my 3rd run of 65.62 should see a mid to high 63s run if the tweaks are sorted and I have a Red Bull a la John and Trevor prior to the S.O.B. run :lol:

to maximise 1Bs id need it much stiffer and it would bugger it up as a road car, the next racer will see that sorted though :wink: and 55s at Loton is its target... 8)


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Re: Loton Park July 2013

Post by philhoward » Mon Jul 15, 2013 11:39 am

Next question is what will it do at Curbs given its another circuit you know well?


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Re: Loton Park July 2013

Post by CNHSS1 » Mon Jul 15, 2013 11:39 am

Nick wrote:Sounds like my patent 5th/reverse gate cover may be needed :oops:
Box is perfect as is the B&M shifter, but as its the S14 box Stew added an extension crank (nicely engineered as usual Stew 8) ) but it gives a slight arc to the shift pattern especially fore and aft, and I think its that when hustling the change on track that's the issue, so I intend to remove the Sabre cubby box and extension and see if I can put up with the rearward lever position.


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Re: Loton Park July 2013

Post by CNHSS1 » Mon Jul 15, 2013 11:44 am

philhoward wrote:Next question is what will it do at Curbs given its another circuit you know well?
not sure, tell you after Saturday AM practice :wink: but im hoping for 64s ???
im hoping to do a couple of runs on a borrowed set of 1Bs for sat practice to see what difference they make with a view to next season

I have drafted in my secret weapon, Mr Gough, to double drive, to speed up car development and as a benchmark to get me back up to competitive speed. We were pretty much identical over a season in 2009 when we both finished in speed events, but he's since continued racing in circuits cars, so who better to learn from? :D when I can beat him, hopefully that should be me back up to speed. his development feedback will also be very useful too.


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Re: Loton Park July 2013

Post by philhoward » Mon Jul 15, 2013 11:47 am

Sounds like mission accomplished already - get your mojo back....


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Re: Loton Park July 2013

Post by CNHSS1 » Mon Jul 15, 2013 11:50 am

Mojos back :twisted: 8)

in fact the old feeling was back before I crossed the line in first practice, great to be back :D

winter will be full of Dark Knight build, don't like not gunning for records, some of those boys are getting perilously close to some of mine, cant have that :mrgreen:


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Re: Loton Park July 2013

Post by philhoward » Mon Jul 15, 2013 11:54 am

Glad to hear it...

At this rate, those boys are chasing your coat tails already...


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Re: Loton Park July 2013

Post by CNHSS1 » Mon Jul 15, 2013 12:34 pm

philhoward wrote:Glad to hear it...

At this rate, those boys are chasing your coat tails already...
Er, no, Team Louch and red Rocket are in a different league, and Mr Corks cars getting close. Steve O was very neat and unflustered, the Loton School looked to have helped Steve? defo ready for more grunt and grip now eh Mr Oakes? :lol:

Chris Eades came along for an hour to watch and made an interesting comment, that the Sabre looked mighty quick but no where near the ultimate pace, and it proved just how good the Batmobile was with 80hp LESS (I was nearly 10s slower than my Batmobile pace :shock: )


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Re: Loton Park July 2013

Post by swoakes » Mon Jul 15, 2013 12:48 pm

CNHSS1 wrote: Steve O was very neat and unflustered, the Loton School looked to have helped Steve? defo ready for more grunt and grip now eh Mr Oakes? :lol:
Yes I think it did help with lines for sure (but why did I tell Mr Cork :roll: :lol: ) Not sure about more grunt Craig; better brakes would be good :w and as for handling I'm not sure; it feels pretty good unless the idiot at the wheel makes a mistake :oops: :lol:


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