Loton Park 14 July 2013

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Re: Loton Park July 2013

Post by CNHSS1 » Wed Jul 17, 2013 10:24 am

well that's perfect Steve 8) no one can better that :-)


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Re: Loton Park July 2013

Post by b.c.flat hat » Wed Jul 17, 2013 6:42 pm

swoakes wrote:Its the Loton Facebook page

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Loton-Pa ... 4382134914

Found a few photos of the driving school; just to proove I can find the apex sometimes :lol:

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Re: Loton Park July 2013

Post by Corky » Wed Jul 17, 2013 7:13 pm

Oakesy wrote:Bit late and rubbish, but
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Interesting looking at how all three pointies are squatting at the rear on launch. Very little from the big-uns.


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Re: Loton Park July 2013

Post by Roger Pennington » Wed Jul 17, 2013 7:49 pm

scimitarcars.org.uk wrote: Interesting looking at how all three pointies are squatting at the rear on launch. Very little from the big-uns.
Maybe they ideally need progressive-rate rear springs, to counteract the effect of the geometry?


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Re: Loton Park July 2013

Post by CNHSS1 » Wed Jul 17, 2013 7:51 pm

My soapbox re the sem trailing arm suspension design, stiffening springs doesnt manage the geometry under hard acceleration, coupled with a very short wheelbase and engine behind front axle line.
On yours and Steve Os th noses are lifting too, which allows th mass to pivot around the centre axis, forcing rear lower too. I run a little extra front damping to reduce lift off the line. It was easier on Batty with 2way adj dampers as you can leave the bump the same and just add rebound. Reducing the front lift has a beneficial effect on the rear dropping too.


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Re: Loton Park July 2013

Post by Corky » Wed Jul 17, 2013 8:05 pm

I suppose it gets to be a bit of a trade off though. You can manage the launch, but maybe compromise cornering.


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Re: Loton Park July 2013

Post by philhoward » Wed Jul 17, 2013 8:08 pm

Everything is a compromise one way or another...


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Re: Loton Park July 2013

Post by CNHSS1 » Wed Jul 17, 2013 8:11 pm

A little extra damping will have a greater effect on rebound than bump damping on single adjust dampers (4:1 ratio is common) so the negative effect on cornering is negligible unless you go mad.
Also woryh remembering that most corner exits on hillclimbs are effectively start launches as the corner speeds are so low, so managing the pitch fore and aft has a beneficial effect for more than just the 64ft imho
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Re: Loton Park July 2013

Post by Corky » Wed Jul 17, 2013 8:13 pm

CNHSS1 wrote:A little extra damping will have a greater effect on rebound than bump damping on single adjust dampers (4:1 ratio is common) so the effect on cornering is negligible unless you go mad.
Also woryh remembering that most corner exits on hillclimbs are effectively start launches as the corner speeds are so low, so managing the pitch fore and aft has a beneficial effect for more than just the 64ft imho
Another nugget you've let go Craig :lol:

I'm glad i brought it up now. 8)

I just need Steve to do a few more test days and then let me into the track secrets :lol:


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Re: Loton Park July 2013

Post by CNHSS1 » Wed Jul 17, 2013 8:17 pm

Why wouldnt I help?? It benefits us all in the end, andmakes for better competition which is what its all about 8)

Oh and stuffing the Hovis brigade ;-)


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Re: Loton Park July 2013

Post by b.c.flat hat » Wed Jul 17, 2013 8:24 pm

Oi! I heard that!



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Re: Loton Park July 2013

Post by Corky » Wed Jul 17, 2013 9:22 pm

b.c.flat hat wrote:Oi! I heard that!
:lol: :lol: :lol:


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Loton pics source's (more than one!)

Post by CNHSS1 » Fri Jul 19, 2013 2:33 pm

Ive had 3 x pics from Geoff Robinson of 2020zoom photography of my Sabre, reasonable prices, cracking quality.

he mentioned he had some of most/all the other Scimitars running.

email Geoff on:-

geoff@2020zoom.com

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Re: Loton pics source

Post by CNHSS1 » Fri Jul 19, 2013 5:42 pm

and another, Steve Wilkinson, so pics will be of morning only, as he was commentating in the afternoon runs

http://www.photoboxgallery.com/gallery/ ... 1992525215

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Re: Loton Park 14 July 2013

Post by CNHSS1 » Fri Sep 13, 2013 3:55 pm

some footage my 'Bro took on his phone from Loton of the intrepid Scimitar Compies

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one of Team Louch, not sure if its Papa or SL2010, giving it the big 'un as usual

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a tail sliding exit from Fallow bend by C.Hughes Esq

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