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Post by red rocket » Sat Nov 30, 2019 10:32 am

Will, option of a space save may be worth considering which saves all the work. 5a example owing to use of wider wheels.
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Post by scimjim » Sat Nov 30, 2019 11:16 am

Stevecoulsin wrote:
Sat Nov 30, 2019 8:10 am
What's actually involved in reversing the valve?
disconnect loom and remove the two bolts that hold the valve on. I can’t remember if there’s a gasket or not but simply reverse, re-secure and reconnect.

I had a problem with the idle hunting on a 2.9i Sierra 4wd estate, which I cured by cleaning the valve - same problem on a mk3 2.9i granada needed a new valve (they were around £50 and available at the dealers then :D )


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Post by Stevecoulsin » Sat Nov 30, 2019 1:37 pm

thanks Jim,
sounds like a job I can tackle (famous last words).


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Post by simmit » Sat Nov 30, 2019 3:20 pm

Why fight it?
I use Volvo S40/V40, 125/90 x 15 Space Saver wheel and tyre. Works fine for me.
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Post by Will Yarrow » Sat Nov 30, 2019 3:30 pm

Here's what I have at the moment
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From what you all say, I should turn the Idle controll valve round, so the wiring faces the back (makes sense) and see if it goes in, if not remove some of the front bulkhead till the wheel fits in slightly left. I'm going to run a map sender instead of the ford air flow meters so I should have enough room to make up an air box on the other side, maybe.



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Post by scimjim » Sat Nov 30, 2019 6:20 pm

Is it a 15” wheel you’re trying to fit - and where is it hitting?


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Post by Will Anderson » Sat Nov 30, 2019 7:47 pm

Sorry, ran out of time and light today, will get a photo similar to yours tomorrow if you still need it.


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Post by Will Yarrow » Sat Nov 30, 2019 8:58 pm

Simmit, the space saver is the last resort, I do like a real spare and I have a set of 5 wolfies.
Will A, If you get chance a photo of the MB solution would be helpful, just to see what they did.
ScimJim, I think they are standard 14" wolfraces, I'll have to check in the morning, but you could have a point there.
I think the wheel was catching on the Idle control valve, I didn't get chance to check today, the daughters Polo needed a new battery, which german twunt thought putting a fuse box on top of a battery was a good idea. 12 year old plastic clips are bloody annoying. I'll have another go tomorrow with the ICV turned round. Thanks everyone.



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Post by Stevecoulsin » Sun Dec 01, 2019 12:51 pm

Here is the tray for MB66. I assume it is standard.
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Post by Will Yarrow » Sun Dec 01, 2019 3:08 pm

Thanks for those Steve, Christ they removed a lot of the front bulkhead and then moved the tray over 1" or so. I had another go at mine to day and after turning the idle control valve 180 degrees as sugested (there is a paper gasket in there) it went in with a struggle. I think with the tray properly bolted down it will go in a bit easier. Plus I can leave the header tank and screen washer bottle where they were.
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Post by Terry Rickard » Sun Dec 01, 2019 3:19 pm

Hi Will,
Where did you get that coolant header tank from please?
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Post by drcdb15 » Sun Dec 01, 2019 4:03 pm

Will Yarrow wrote:
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... turning the idle control valve 180 degrees as sugested (there is a paper gasket in there)...
When I did mine the paper gasket was only... er ... paper-thin, and pretty much fell apart. So on the assumption a replacement would be much less than the postage I just put on a smear of Hylomar Blue to keep it air tight. And yes, with every mm critical bolting down the tray fully will make a difference.


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Post by Will Yarrow » Sun Dec 01, 2019 4:03 pm

Hi Terry
I got it from :-
http://www.alicool.co.uk/radiators.html
I ordered their ali radiator then sent them my old rusty (Yes even Reliant plastic can rust!) header tank to copy. I would say it's not a perfect fit, it needed 1/4 and 3/8" spacers on the bottom mounts, being a square shape not rounded like the original and the mounting holes were not perfect, nice welding though. It was about a tun, which I thought was resonable for a custom build, I'd still be burning holes in it if I was making it. If you order one get them not to drill the mounting holes and mark 'em up your self.



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Post by Will Yarrow » Sun Dec 01, 2019 4:06 pm

When I did mine the paper gasket was only... er ... paper-thin, and pretty much fell apart. So on the assumption a replacement would be much less than the postage I just put on a smear of Hylomar Blue to keep it air tight. And yes, with every mm critical bolting down the tray fully will make a difference.
The gasket survived on mine, but it hasen't been run yet, it did get an extra dollop of Wellseal though.



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Post by Terry Rickard » Sun Dec 01, 2019 4:09 pm

Thanks very much Will,
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