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Post by nickkeyser » Thu Aug 02, 2018 10:56 pm

Dad chanced across this in an old book shop; original leaflet for the Mays head.
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Post by roymck » Fri Aug 03, 2018 8:58 am

This is the MK2 mays head as shown by the use of a MK1 Zephyr rocker cover. There were 3 versions of the head from the 50,s till the 60,s . Mk3 is the best .



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Post by Old and Slow » Fri Aug 03, 2018 9:30 am

Nice find!
If you ever decide to pass it on, let me know, thanks.
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Post by Dcrosby13 » Fri Aug 03, 2018 9:33 am

Cool find!


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Post by Roger Pennington » Fri Aug 03, 2018 10:09 am

Well done, that's a great find! :D


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Post by David Tew » Fri Aug 03, 2018 10:34 am

That's really interesting. I love the period ad-speak such as "bounding exuberance".

I remember Don Pither turning up one day with a customised MK2 Ford Zephyr (jacked up rear, wide back wheels, skinny fronts, graphic flame repaint) that he bought purely for the Mays head that was fitted. The bloke he bought it from told him to take it careful as it went " like a sheet of flame!".

Don drove it back from Southampton and said it was the worst car he'd ever driven. I think he probably needed a cushion or two to see over the steering wheel as well.

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Post by Dcrosby13 » Fri Aug 03, 2018 10:53 am

a sheet of flame :lol:


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Post by chrisgallacher » Fri Aug 03, 2018 11:10 am

David Tew wrote:
Fri Aug 03, 2018 10:34 am
That's really interesting. I love the period ad-speak such as "bounding exuberance".

I remember Don Pither turning up one day with a customised MK2 Ford Zephyr (jacked up rear, wide back wheels, skinny fronts, graphic flame repaint) that he bought purely for the Mays head that was fitted. The bloke he bought it from told him to take it careful as it went " like a sheet of flame!".

Don drove it back from Southampton and said it was the worst car he'd ever driven. I think he probably needed a cushion or two to see over the steering wheel as well.

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Don't we all describe our cars as having "bounding exuberance" then? Maybe it's just me :D

Interested in the anecdote about Don Pither, as that almost certainly was the Mays Head he fitted to my Sabre Six, 232 GUE - although I think at that point it still bore its original registration BRP187B. I knew Don had bought a Mays Zephyr and swapped the heads over, but I've never heard the details - so thanks for the snippet!

Here's the same head, on the same Sabre Six engine, when I rebuilt it all 5 years ago prior to fitting back into the car:
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Post by *JP* » Fri Aug 03, 2018 12:27 pm

Did all the Mays conversions use twin carbs or some triple?

With twin carbs would it have not been better to use bigger than 1.5"...which is the size used by the MGB,with a lot smaller and less powerful engine.



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Post by chrisgallacher » Fri Aug 03, 2018 12:36 pm

Virtually all the Mays conversions on Sabres use triple webers. Not sure about Zephyrs, and I noticed that the leaflet featured twin H4 SUs. I can't recall seeing a Mays head with triple SUs.

Mine are twin HS6 1.75" SUs, so bit bigger than the MBGs etc. I've always assumed that happened to be what was fitted to the Mays Zephyr that Don bought, but I can't be sure.


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Post by *JP* » Fri Aug 03, 2018 12:51 pm

chrisgallacher wrote:
Fri Aug 03, 2018 12:36 pm
Virtually all the Mays conversions on Sabres use triple webers. Not sure about Zephyrs, and I noticed that the leaflet featured twin H4 SUs. I can't recall seeing a Mays head with triple SUs.

Mine are twin HS6 1.75" SUs, so bit bigger than the MBGs etc. I've always assumed that happened to be what was fitted to the Mays Zephyr that Don bought, but I can't be sure.
Thanks,that's what I was thinking,that 1.75 ones would be more suited.



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Post by philhoward » Fri Aug 03, 2018 1:13 pm

Ironically twin SUs won’t be any significant power or driveability disadvantage due to firing order and scavenging (charge robbing).

Triples look better though :D


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Post by *JP* » Fri Aug 03, 2018 1:39 pm

philhoward wrote:
Fri Aug 03, 2018 1:13 pm
Ironically twin SUs won’t be any significant power or driveability disadvantage due to firing order and scavenging (charge robbing).

Triples look better though :D
More forward thinking at the time might have resulted in a better cross flow head,as per the Lotus twin cam of the sixties...but history is just that,not changeable. :)



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Post by Old and Slow » Fri Aug 03, 2018 2:15 pm

Must be a later ad than the one I have, as mine says "£100 plus £5 to fit"!! :o
Also, the brochure mentions that a high lift cam can be fitted. Does anyone have any info on this? RO supplied? Our registrar Tony tells me that 660XYB is fitted with a 277 cam (overlap?) but I'd like to know more.
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Post by Old and Slow » Fri Aug 03, 2018 2:21 pm

BTW Chris,
I see your engine has the crankcase breather venting to the atmosphere. Is it still like this? Just wondering, as 660XYB has a "vent tank" (1 litre plastic bottle, one day I might get an ally one made).
Yours looks nice, very clean. ( engine, that is; and the car too, of course). :D


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