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Post by Old and Slow » Sun Dec 02, 2018 10:27 pm

Sabre Six with the 2.6 straight six Zodiac engine, rebuilt approx 20 years ago by Iain Daniels for Richard Prosser.
The problem is the crankshaft rear oil seal leaking; I've tried changing just the bottom half from under the car, but without success, so it is time to lift the engine out and change both halves of the seal.
I'll replace the timing chain too, but I don't want to disturb the RM head if I don't need to.
Progress with photographs to follow; currently getting all the bits together ready to start.


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Post by Old and Slow » Sun Dec 02, 2018 10:32 pm

Thanks Oaksey; from here on, I'll be using a "Project Progress" thread, asking for supplier details etc. so I won't expect anything more on this thread.


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Post by chrisgallacher » Sun Dec 02, 2018 11:03 pm

Re the core plugs Philip - I don't recall seeing a set for the S6 engine, but I've collected individual plugs from auto jumbles over the years. I suggest not worrying about measuring yours - just give Kevin Dipchon at Zodiac Motors in Erith a call and he'll pop the correct sizes in the post to you and you'll know they'll fit. Unless Nigel at QRG has any in stock?


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Post by Joe. » Mon Dec 03, 2018 7:50 am

https://coreplugs.co.uk/stainless-steel ... less-steel - Just used these guys to get a full set of stainless plugs for the Essex, quite a bit more expensive than mild steel but hopefully worth it in the long run.
All there plugs are made in-house in the UK too.



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Post by lambrettald » Mon Dec 03, 2018 8:40 am

Hi - can you tell me please which ones and how many you ordered please as will buy some (love stainless and eliminates another failure item)

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Post by chrisgallacher » Mon Dec 03, 2018 9:27 am

Joe. wrote:
Mon Dec 03, 2018 7:50 am
https://coreplugs.co.uk/stainless-steel ... less-steel - Just used these guys to get a full set of stainless plugs for the Essex, quite a bit more expensive than mild steel but hopefully worth it in the long run.
All there plugs are made in-house in the UK too.
Not come across these before - like the idea


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Post by roymck » Mon Dec 03, 2018 10:35 am

Joe. wrote:
Mon Dec 03, 2018 7:50 am
https://coreplugs.co.uk/stainless-steel ... less-steel - Just used these guys to get a full set of stainless plugs for the Essex, quite a bit more expensive than mild steel but hopefully worth it in the long run.
All there plugs are made in-house in the UK too.
Joe do you know what sizes and quantities for the S6 and V6 engine . Brilliant idea.



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Post by MrGoldtop1960 » Mon Dec 03, 2018 8:12 pm

Hi Philip/Chris,
Whilst at a car show earlier this year, I was parked up next to a really fantastic Zodiac which had a RM head fitted. After talking with the owner throughout the day he gave me a business card of the place he gets all his spares from etc.
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Post by Joe. » Mon Dec 03, 2018 8:35 pm

Hi, for the essex I ordered:

1.5/8" x 1
2" x 1
1.1/4" x 12 ( think the essex only needs 11 I wanted a spare just in case. )

The whole order was about £35, not sure what the sizes are for the straight 6 off hand so can't help there...



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Post by chrisgallacher » Mon Dec 03, 2018 8:39 pm

There aren't that many options for S6 engine spares, so when I rebuilt my engine I bought all the parts from Kev at ZMS. Fair prices and nice guy to deal with.

The other Zephyr/Zodiac specialist is Newford Parts Centre at Chorley, but I don't have any direct experience of using them. But they are well thought of too I think.


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Post by Old and Slow » Tue Dec 04, 2018 6:02 pm

Hi Kev,
That's who I'm using for all my bits, but thanks for the tip.
Philip


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Post by Old and Slow » Wed Dec 05, 2018 6:46 pm

Just ordered the timing chain, front crank seal and gasket, picture to follow when they arrive.


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Post by chrisgallacher » Wed Dec 05, 2018 7:19 pm

Degrease and re-paint the block whilst the engine's out??


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Post by Old and Slow » Fri Dec 07, 2018 10:28 am

Hi Chris;
Great minds think alike! :)
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And here's a picture of the old bottom oil seal alongside the new ones waiting to be fitted; ZMS recommend soaking in oil for 24 hours, although my Autopress Workshop Manual says not to. :shock:
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Hope to get started next week.


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Post by philhoward » Fri Dec 07, 2018 11:20 am

If it’s a fabric (rope) or leather seal I’d soak it myself.


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