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Steering UJ wrongly phased Coupe

Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2019 3:48 pm
by roymck
The upper UJ on my column was siezed so ordered a new one from QRG . It’s wrong as it’s impossible to set the UJ correctly in line
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with the lower UJ .
The UJ on the bottom end on the rack is one piece with the lower shaft , so you can only fit the upper UJ in line with the cut outs in the column and it’s totally wrong . Anybody else came across this as it’s bad engineering practice and I am not happy.

Steering UJ wrongly phased Coupe

Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2019 5:23 pm
by AJL Electronics
Can't see the issue, both ends are splined.

Steering UJ wrongly phased Coupe

Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2019 5:25 pm
by philhoward
The issue is the bolt will only pass through with it in one orientation?

Been a while since I stared at the column UJs and splines but don't some parts have a groove all the way round and others just a slot (so fixing the rotary position)?

Steering UJ wrongly phased Coupe

Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2019 5:42 pm
by roymck
AJL Electronics wrote:
Thu Feb 21, 2019 5:23 pm
Can't see the issue, both ends are splined.
On the old joint the bolts runs in line with the UJ , on the new joint the bolt is at 90 Dgs to the UJ. So if you assemble it up one joint would be horizontal while one was vertical . This will make the steering notchy !
philhoward wrote:
Thu Feb 21, 2019 5:25 pm
The issue is the bolt will only pass through with it in one orientation?

Been a while since I stared at the column UJs and splines but don't some parts have a groove all the way round and others just a slot (so fixing the rotary position)?
The rack has a cut out all the way round so the lower joint fits on in any orientation . It is a sold forging with the shaft . The top of the lower shaft has a notch and the column has a notch as well . So both joints need to be inline or the shaft will rum out of true . Think of it like a propshaft the UJ,s have to run phases together . 2 ways round it cut a groove round the top of the lower column and spin the joint round or get the correct UJ . The pressed steel kind is listed on Car Builder Solutions .

Anybody else seen this problem ?

Steering UJ wrongly phased Coupe

Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2019 5:44 pm
by peter freeman
Run a drill through it or file - not that difficult to modify.

Steering UJ wrongly phased Coupe

Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2019 5:44 pm
by scimjim
Simple pic here to show the problem
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Steering UJ wrongly phased Coupe

Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2019 5:51 pm
by b.c.flat hat
Eh oop, Roy. See yer "Coupe thread".
(Beaten by them that tripe wi' more than one finger!)😳😁

Steering UJ wrongly phased Coupe

Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2019 6:20 pm
by roymck
There are obviously 2 types of joint as seen on my first picture , both are available from Car Builders solutions so could have ordered the correct part from them if I had known .
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Steering UJ wrongly phased Coupe

Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2019 6:35 pm
by AJL Electronics
I understand phasing, but I can't see why you can't get it right by adjusting it on the splines. If it is 90 degrees out, then position one end 90 degrees out. Easier than getting it swapped out.

Steering UJ wrongly phased Coupe

Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2019 6:37 pm
by scimjim
AJL Electronics wrote:
Thu Feb 21, 2019 6:35 pm
I understand phasing, but I can't see why you can't get it right by adjusting it on the splines. If it is 90 degrees out, then position one end 90 degrees out. Easier than getting it swapped out.
Because the bolt will only go through in one position, which will mean modifying the shaft.

Steering UJ wrongly phased Coupe

Posted: Thu Jul 04, 2019 4:37 pm
by peter freeman
Started to put power steering in our Coupe ( slice report will be done ) and guess what the steering as above is 90deg out - I have a spare connection piece which is also 90deg out so I assume they were made that way originally. easy enough to put right but it makes you wonder how many other Coupes have the same arrangement - perhaps Reliant had a batch made all wrong and did nothing about it.

Steering UJ wrongly phased Coupe

Posted: Thu Jul 18, 2019 7:36 am
by Chet
Mines "incorrect" and is all original, as far as I can tell - #400692.
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