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12v Battery

Post by ScimmyMike » Mon Apr 03, 2017 10:29 pm

Okay then, I need one or possibly two, what size should I be going for as mine didn't have a working battery so no idea what spec to look for, I've measured up the cubby's and get 205mm long x 175mm width x 200mm high as a max dim, interested in required CCA and the like tbh or better still recommendations of what other have that works for them.
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Re: 12v Battery

Post by philhoward » Tue Apr 04, 2017 5:47 am

I've seen both a single and a pair of 063 batteries used although they appear to be 210mm long?


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Re: 12v Battery

Post by ScimmyMike » Tue Apr 04, 2017 10:05 am

Cheers Phil, guess with a lifting piece I could squeeze an extra 5mm in, will look into


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Re: 12v Battery

Post by philhoward » Tue Apr 04, 2017 10:06 am

When I've seen them, they are normally sitting on a 10mm thick piece of high density (solid) foam - stops chafing as well on that lovely paintwork..


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Re: 12v Battery

Post by peter freeman » Tue Apr 04, 2017 10:59 am

I have a 063 fitted to our V6 Coupe - fitted straight in no problem. Went with the 063 as that's what is fitted to our SS's - plenty of power for the engine.



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Re: 12v Battery

Post by philhoward » Tue Apr 04, 2017 11:05 am

An 063 is what I run my Omega engine on with a 10.5:1 compression ratio but I did choose a Bosch battery with the better CCA figure. Cheap as chips when bought from ECP on one of their regular sales.


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Re: 12v Battery

Post by drcdb15 » Tue Apr 04, 2017 11:12 am

ScimmyMike wrote:Okay then, I need one or possibly two, what size should I be going for as mine didn't have a working battery so no idea what spec to look for, I've measured up the cubby's and get 205mm long x 175mm width x 200mm high as a max dim, interested in required CCA and the like tbh or better still recommendations of what other have that works for them.
Thanks in advance
To do it from first principles, start here to see what will physically fit: https://www.puretyre.co.uk/car-battery- ... ion-chart/

From that shortlist, select those that have the terminals in a location where your cables can reach them (unless you plan new/altered cables).

Then select the capacity (Ah) and cranking current you need (at least 45Ah, preferably up to 60Ah, CCA at least 460A, preferably around 540-ish).

Next select the quality /price you can afford. Recent chat on my thread here https://scimitarweb.co.uk/sgwrs/viewtop ... =1&t=35671 suggests Bosch is best cost/performance option but private chat with Will in the MESS suggests Varta is slightly cheaper and probably as good.

Next find supplier. I've just had excellent price and delivery from Tayna. My own view is to AVOID "Just Car Batteries" as from Trip Advisor their service seems pretty flaky. Certainly my alarm bells started rining when their Paypal option seemed to be a bit unstable.

Next get adapters if the terminal connection isn't right for your existing.


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Re: 12v Battery

Post by ScimmyMike » Tue Apr 04, 2017 2:15 pm

Looking like a Bosch S5 063 will be just the ticket 520 CCA and 52Ah job for £63 from Tayna, I've heard others but from them so as Chris said, give be confidence it will actually turn up, ECP are £130 for the same thing, even with their 40% deals still far more, lead arrangements not really an issue as Geoff Cooper, bless his soul, kindly made up some longer ones for me at Curbs a few years back.
Also found a VARTA C6 with identical spec £55, same 5 year warranty and looks identical bar stickers :?
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Re: 12v Battery

Post by philhoward » Tue Apr 04, 2017 2:18 pm

I think I caught a lucky deal on Bosch batteries with mine..


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Re: 12v Battery

Post by ScimmyMike » Tue Apr 04, 2017 2:34 pm

Ordered and with discount from their FB pages, not much but every little helps, think it offset half a brew at the weekends NEC Resto show


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Re: 12v Battery

Post by peter freeman » Tue Apr 04, 2017 2:56 pm

How are you going to clamp the battery into position - I use a SS band. This is a old photo - I now have a Bosch battery fitted.
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Re: 12v Battery

Post by ScimmyMike » Tue Apr 04, 2017 3:03 pm

Intend fixing a chequered alloy plate aka a recycled se6B sill cover via tiger seal in the battery tray area then the usual rods and angle type clamps.


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Re: 12v Battery

Post by peter freeman » Tue Apr 04, 2017 3:39 pm

I could not get the rods in - too tight hence the band.



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Re: 12v Battery

Post by ScimmyMike » Tue Apr 04, 2017 4:03 pm

peter freeman wrote:I could not get the rods in - too tight hence the band.
Fair point, will need a bit of thinking about that then, needs to be secure for Mr MOT man of course


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Re: 12v Battery

Post by philhoward » Tue Apr 04, 2017 4:10 pm

Luggage strap?


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