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Post by hermeticist » Tue Aug 06, 2019 5:47 pm

Jim, on your distributor cap it appears to be numbered as 4 on the top right, my cap says 1, is that my imagination?



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Post by hermeticist » Tue Aug 06, 2019 5:51 pm

On Jim's photos of the distributor the rotor arm appears to be pointing around 12 o'clock at 0° at 15° it appears to be pointing at around 1 o'clock. I'm sure mine was more like 2 o'clock!



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Post by Dcrosby13 » Tue Aug 06, 2019 5:53 pm

they do look like a four but its actually a 1 or an arrow


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Post by hermeticist » Tue Aug 06, 2019 11:37 pm

That's good, I thought I was totally upside down!



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Post by scimjim » Wed Aug 07, 2019 12:41 am

As I said, number one is top right and I moved the dizzy drive clockwise another tooth after taking that photo.


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Post by scimjim » Wed Aug 07, 2019 12:44 am

hermeticist wrote:
Tue Aug 06, 2019 5:47 pm
Jim, on your distributor cap it appears to be numbered as 4 on the top right, my cap says 1, is that my imagination?
Spent 5. Minutes looking for a photo of my dizzy cap before I realised you meant Darryl’s photo :D


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Post by hermeticist » Wed Aug 07, 2019 12:56 am

Sorry Jim! My excuse is that it's all gone to hell down in the deep South-West, all the parents are in tears because they've cancelled Boardmasters so the teenagers are remaining at home...



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Post by scimjim » Wed Aug 07, 2019 8:38 am

I read that last night - I hope they’re right about the rain, otherwise there’s going to be trouble :D


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Post by hermeticist » Thu Aug 08, 2019 12:31 am

Well... Boardmasters might not be running but another 1800ti is!!! After having another fiddle today, and shearing off the distributor bolt that fixes it to the head (an easy fix due to incredible luck). I put her back together and she started first time. I think I might need to fine tune the timing but she sounds pretty good. Even the temperature gauge is working! Now I need to fix a couple of lights and take her for an MOT...

Thank you guys, you are the best and I couldn't have done all of this without you! :)



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Post by Dcrosby13 » Thu Aug 08, 2019 5:06 am

Glad you got it sorted


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Post by PeteMac » Thu Aug 08, 2019 7:45 am

hermeticist wrote:
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and shearing off the distributor bolt that fixes it to the head
Yep, I did that too last year. Think I also sheared the other adjustment bolt at one point. Only so much they can take I suppose. :)

Do you know what fixed it?


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Post by PeteMac » Thu Aug 08, 2019 8:04 am

philhoward wrote:
Tue Aug 06, 2019 2:51 pm
Is it a damped/bonded pulley? I’m pretty sure the DET ones are so it should follow the ET ones are as well.
For info, mine is as shown here, with separate damper and pulley. (Earlier engine perhaps? It uses the v-shaped alternator belt). The pulley itself can be bolted on any old way (well, up to 6 ways) but, of course, only one is correct. :)
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Post by hermeticist » Fri Aug 09, 2019 12:35 am

Maybe they changed it when they moved to the ribbed belt?

I was surprised how easily it sheared, I wasn't using a big spanner.

As for fixing it, I don't think there was as much wrong with it as I thought, It was mainly my stupidity. Darryl telling me that the distributor rotated anti clockwise sorted the non firing middle cylinders, they only seem to work when you get the right HT lead on the correct cylinder!!! However, the non-starting was due to the timing (I think), I was really careful fitting and aligning the distributor but eventually I took a protractor to the plate below the rotor arm and marked it with a Sharpie. I really had no belief it would make a difference, because it looked in the same place but I guess it was further out than I thought.

So... I just have to finish this one and start on the next, it's sitting out the back with no front suspension at the moment. I'm kind of fancying the Ferrari V6 out of the new Alfas... That should fit in an SS1, right?



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Post by Dcrosby13 » Fri Aug 09, 2019 5:55 am

Anything is possible


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Post by PeteMac » Fri Aug 09, 2019 8:09 am

hermeticist wrote:
Fri Aug 09, 2019 12:35 am
I was surprised how easily it sheared, I wasn't using a big spanner.
Likewise, only a small spanner. Just couldn't cope with my incessant dizzy adjustments and removals.

Glad you got it sorted.


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