Gaz Shocks for SS1.

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Post by binlicker » Mon Jan 28, 2019 4:15 pm

I started a tread a couple of weeks ago with ref to what shocks. It was the opinion of all that some kind of high spec shocker was needed. So I ordered a set of Gaz shocks and standard rear springs, I think 250 lbs. I received a call this morning saying Gaz would not supply the springs because they couldn't guarantee the ride height when fitted. So whats the options here? Stronger springs? or am I being fobed off, or do I need to buy the springs from a Reliant parts supplier. I would't want the car to be draging it's rear end when I've done all the suspension. Thanks.



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Post by Corky » Mon Jan 28, 2019 4:21 pm

2.25” diameter 10.5” long 240lb, is what I have on my GAZ coilovers.

Available from loads of Motorsport suppliers


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Post by scimjim » Mon Jan 28, 2019 4:30 pm

sounds like you're being fobbed off to me?


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Post by binlicker » Mon Jan 28, 2019 4:38 pm

Thanks for that info. I'am now going to ring Larkspeed [The suppling dealer] and give them the spec mentioned. Thanks



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Post by philhoward » Mon Jan 28, 2019 5:06 pm

You didn’t go direct to Gaz then?
http://www.scimitarweb.co.uk/sgwrs/view ... =27&t=5654


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Post by binlicker » Mon Jan 28, 2019 5:30 pm

No I bought them from Larkspeed in Leeds. I looked and at the time they were doing the best deal. £65 front and £75 rear post free. Then £39 per spring, just priced up the same spec springs and can get them for £22 each, just need some advice on whether 240lbs or 280lbs? Thanks.



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Post by scimjim » Mon Jan 28, 2019 5:36 pm

that depends what fronts you've specified?

standard was 180 all round, so you don't want 240/280 on the back if you have soggy 180s on the front.


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Post by Roger Pennington » Mon Jan 28, 2019 5:41 pm

binlicker wrote:
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So I ordered a set of Gaz shocks and standard rear springs, I think 250 lbs. I received a call this morning saying Gaz would not supply the springs because they couldn't guarantee the ride height when fitted.
Presumably you've ordered non ride height adjustable ones? As I can't really see them trying to guarantee the ride height, if they were adjustable?


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Post by Corky » Mon Jan 28, 2019 5:48 pm

Ohh hang on...

Before you order springs, check to see what size collets have been used by GAZ. If they have made you original spec non-adjustable spring seat, they may have used 2.5” collets. In which case the price they quoted is about right.

I ordered mine direct from GAZ and gave them the spec I wanted, ie. 2.25” collets/adjustable.


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Post by binlicker » Mon Jan 28, 2019 8:05 pm

The springs on the front are from QRG and standard so you say these are 180lbs when I ordered the rear I asked for standard springs and I'am sure the guy said 250lb so I really need to be looking at 180 opposed to 250? I don't want a car with rock hard suspension I need a road car. I made no specification ref the shocks so I expect them to be as standard so the collets are more than likely to 2.5". So is it fair to say I will need springs at 2.5"ID X 10.5" length at about 180lbs. I've had a quick look and there is a load of company's that supply that spec. As for Gaz they say no to suppling the springs had too much trouble in the past whatever that means. Thanks



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Post by scimjim » Mon Jan 28, 2019 8:15 pm

Give QRG a bell before you order and just check what they’re selling as “standard”. I expect they’ll be 180 but may be a little stiffer (200?) The standard rear springs and dampers seem to last a lot better than the fronts.


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Post by Jhdelta » Mon Jan 28, 2019 8:19 pm

I have 200lb front and rear with gaz universal adjustables and increased ride hieght and it can be a bit crashy on the rear on big pot holes dont think i would recomend any firmer, tyre profile can make quite a difference to comfort and handling sharpness. Some info on my thread ss1 targa rally car.



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Post by binlicker » Tue Jan 29, 2019 10:21 pm

I spoke to Nigel at QRG and he explained the short fall with Gaz shocks when it comes to a SS1. So after some thought I decided to order the rear shocks with adjustable collets with 2.25 ID X 10.5 at 200 lbs and the front slightly less at about 190 lbs. Thanks .



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Post by Corky » Wed Jan 30, 2019 7:17 am

There’s no short fall with GAZ shocks in particular. I’ve used them for years without a problem. The issue is around setting the ride height if you don’t have adjustable spring seats, as you’re reliant on the spring to set this. Different lengths and poundages will give differing results.


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Post by binlicker » Wed Jan 30, 2019 8:57 am

I've still ordered Gaz because they are the cheapest. I can only pass on what I was told and QRG no longer stock them because of the issues with ride height but that was with the fixed collets and that's the reason I changed to adjustable ones. All I require is a decent ride not too hard and not too soft it seems to me with the adjustable collets is the right way to go. Thanks



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