Tips on electrical fault when starting? Before I take it all apart...

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Post by Moschops » Sun Jun 24, 2018 6:10 pm

Okey dokey; so if I buy that one in the ebay link, I may (or may not) have to do some manual wire splicing to get the right wires to the right connection pins.


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Post by philhoward » Sun Jun 24, 2018 8:07 pm

No splicing - just pin swapping. Doable with a couple of very small screwdrivers or a perfectly sized straw..


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Post by Moschops » Sun Jun 24, 2018 9:05 pm

I'll give that a go... what could go wrong! :p


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Post by PeteMac » Sun Jun 24, 2018 9:39 pm

Be interested to hear how you get on with that switch. Might replace mine in the not too distant future.


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Post by Moschops » Sun Jun 24, 2018 10:17 pm

Watch this space! I expect I'll buy it tomorrow, or Tuesday if I forget, and with any luck will have an attempt at the weekend...


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Post by Moschops » Sun Jul 08, 2018 4:39 pm

Well, having got out there this afternoon, and after a scary few minutes in which it appeared the brakes had seized (which is a bit off, as I never actually leave the handbrake on - so what's going on there? That really is scary, because if it won't roll I truly see no way to get it out - there's not a lot of workspace in there!) and I was never going to get it out of the garage again, I managed to hotwire it and with some forceful use of reverse gear get it out of the garage. Which was nice.

The new part does fit well into place, and the electrical connection socket at the end looks like a match. However, the arrangement of connections (i.e. which pin goes to which twisty setting) doesn't match.

Here's a picture. Original at left. New one on the right.

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As you can see, there's a pin in entirely the wrong place, and the other pins also don't match. Wire colours differ too, but that's no surprise. Should it be possible to pull those pins out and put them back in the correct order, or am I going to have to get more drastic? I don't want to try pulling them out if they're not meant to pop out :/


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Post by philhoward » Sun Jul 08, 2018 5:47 pm

Pull - sort of.
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See the little tab-like bit (barb) of the pin I’ve circled (badly) in red? That will press inwards, allowing you to pull the pin back through the housing. I think there’s 2 of those barbs - one either side of each pin.

Practice on the old one first..


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Post by Moschops » Sun Jul 08, 2018 5:58 pm

Thanks very much Phil. Constant light pressure pulling on the wire and pressing in each side of the connector in turn with a suitable thin flathead screwdriver does the job; once you've got the feel of it, only a few seconds per pin. Now I just replicate the pattern of the original and I'm half-way there. If I get it working again reliably, I might even apply insurance and see how an MOT goes...

Be nice to see it running on the road again. I find often that once a car has been off the road for a while, the odds of it ever coming back become too slim.


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Post by AJL Electronics » Sun Jul 08, 2018 6:51 pm

A piece of brake pipe is just the right size for that job.


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Post by Moschops » Sun Jul 15, 2018 1:34 pm

Getting there in slow steps. It seems that having been drawn out once, the pins are now a little prone to it and one was pushed free while joining the two sockets back in the car. And then all of them! Annoying :/ I'll have to see about making sure those little bendy bits are properly bent out again, to help them stay, and maybe a tight cable tie around all four wires will give them a bit more strength. Better dig out some suitable cable ties, or buy a pack.

Getting the cylinder into the socket at the steering wheel end sure is a fiddly task too.


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Post by Moschops » Tue Jul 17, 2018 7:30 pm

Well, the garage was broken into, but it looks like they didn't touch a thing. Just need a new garage door :/ How very tiresome.


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Post by philhoward » Tue Jul 17, 2018 7:35 pm

Bugger :(


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Post by scimjim » Tue Jul 17, 2018 8:06 pm

Scrotes - wire the new garage door to the mains :twisted:


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Post by 1800oldb » Wed Jul 18, 2018 4:03 pm

Many years ago, an RAF colleague suspected his neighbour of stealing coal so he wired - feed to the door-handle, return to a steel mesh mat in front of the door - to the coal-house door.. Luckily for somebody, after listening to all the horrified comments, he went home and disconnected his 'aversion-therapy' kit.



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