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Re: Front Running Gear

Post by CNHSS1 » Sat Dec 19, 2015 8:09 pm

I never ran with a spare Mark god knows where it went, but i didnt sell it with one


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Re: Front Running Gear

Post by gtcse8 » Sat Dec 19, 2015 8:28 pm

Cheers Peter


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Re: Front Running Gear

Post by gtcse8 » Sat Dec 19, 2015 8:39 pm

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Re: Front Running Gear

Post by scimjim » Sat Dec 19, 2015 8:42 pm

Are they GW discs and metro turbo calipers?

I think this has become a project progress thread? :-)


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Re: Front Running Gear

Post by gtcse8 » Sat Dec 19, 2015 9:50 pm

Hi Jim

Watch this space :mrgreen:

My quest for better braking has got me researching what`s available without radically altering the car, and without breaking, LOL, the bank. :w

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Re: Front Running Gear

Post by alan.wells » Sat Dec 19, 2015 10:05 pm

Mark, I will check tomorrow & get back to you
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Re: Front Running Gear

Post by alan.wells » Sun Dec 20, 2015 10:49 am

Hi Mark,
Just checked the KN Diamond wheels and YES they do have an insert into the wheel, the insert only measured with a tape is 15mm inside dia and the outside dia is approx. 21 to 22mm, sorry cannot be more specific.
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Re: Front Running Gear

Post by gtcse8 » Sun Dec 20, 2015 7:19 pm

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After reading all I can find on the forum about brake conversions I thought it would be interesting to see the effects of altering parts. :?:

One thing that was easy to change and check is the rear cylinders. :)

I had New Standard ones fitted at the time of doing the MOT brake test which came back at stopping power of 180 Lbs. and a far better footbrake feel than when it had worn shoes and leaky cylinders. :cry:

I changed the 3257`s for the 19mm 3255`s as everyone seems to suggest they would give slightly more braking effort but at the expense of a longer pedal. :w

Took it back to the brake test area and had it checked again by my unsuspecting tame MOT man, after doing all the required tests again, Twice, the same results as originally tested came back. :!:

The MOT man was a little surprised when I told him what I had done. :shock:

So I`m now keeping the slightly bigger cylinders at the back as I can`t tell the difference, and neither can the man who checks brakes for a living. :D

Having thought about it rationally, you should not get any noticeable change in pedal travel if your handbrake adjustment is correctly set up as the automatic adjuster bar should keep the shoes just touching the drum, and that very same adjuster bar should stop the shoe spring pushing the cylinders back into the cylinder, therefor the cylinders still only have minimal travel before the shoes contact the drum. :drum:

Another question if you please? just what is the cost of GW et al conversions, and what do you change and get in the Kit`s ?.

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Re: Front Running Gear

Post by Corky » Sun Dec 20, 2015 7:26 pm

You can correct the travel with a bigger MC. A standard GTE one will fit but you'll need to extend the length of the actuator pin on the servo. This is usually only worthwhile if you uprate the caliper piston size as well, ie Volvo or Wilwoods etc.


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Re: Front Running Gear

Post by swoakes » Sun Dec 20, 2015 7:37 pm

The GW kit is no longer a kit as such :)

Its a pair of vented discs to replace the existing and a pair of calipers which are spaced to allow for the thicker disc. The original kit also included longer wheel studs and spacers I think as depending on your wheels fitted you may need them.

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http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Reliant-Scimi ... SwgQ9V3sh0

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Re: Front Running Gear

Post by Roger Pennington » Sun Dec 20, 2015 7:47 pm

gtcse8 wrote: Another question if you please? just what is the cost of GW et al conversions, and what do you change and get in the Kit`s ?.

Mark
No idea on the current cost.
From memory, what you get is the "Metro Turbo" calipers (i.e. the same as the standard ones but wider - in fact they may simply be standard ones spaced out), a pair of vented discs, a pair of wheel spacers which you may need for caliper clearance (dependant on wheels, I guess), and a set of longer studs, to go with the spacers. Everything else remains as standard, and it can be reverted to standard at a later date if required.


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Re: Front Running Gear

Post by scimjim » Sun Dec 20, 2015 8:31 pm

As I'd already said :)
scimjim wrote:Easiest upgrade is GW setup - it uses the wider metro turbo caliper to go over vented discs (originally commissioned by GW, latest ones are apparently a modified off the shelf disc?) you do need the spacers and longer wheel studs they supply in the kit though.


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Re: Front Running Gear

Post by gtcse8 » Sun Dec 20, 2015 8:51 pm

Cheers Steve and Steve :lol:

Jim, I noted what you wroted Ha Ha, but the costs are OTT to the daily driver. :(

I can`t tell you what My disc`s cost, even after the time in machining them. :lol:

Roger, also thanks for your reply/thoughts etc. :)

I`m lucky in the fact my alloy wheels still fit my conversion without spacing them out. :P

In fact the only spacers I needed were to centralise the vented disc within the new caliper, which I did when fitting the new discs to the hub so that I didn`t need to "shim" the calliper on the carrier like you may have to do on the GTE/C`s.

I note that the QRG disc`s are peppered with extra holes!!!, mine use the standard SS PCD holes so are not drilled for lightness :dh

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Re: Front Running Gear

Post by peter freeman » Sun Dec 20, 2015 8:59 pm

QRG sell the complete kit for £364.70p but I don't know if that includes VAT and postage I would guess not - GW I would think will sell for the same price. If you can produce a kit for less then I would be interested Mark as I want to upgrade the Sabre's front brakes before its next run to the Alps.



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Re: Front Running Gear

Post by scimjim » Sun Dec 20, 2015 9:21 pm

It's been said before - if you have the time/money/knowledge/equipment etc, it's fairly simple to fit vented discs to a small sports (as many have). The hard part is making an affordable bolt on kit and that's why GW/QRG have no problems selling it.


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