Small Sports Detectives - SST/Sabre Spec Differences

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Re: Small Sports Detectives - SST/Sabre Spec Differences

Post by geoffp67 » Fri Nov 09, 2012 11:27 pm

does the little lad have a choice :)



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Re: Small Sports Detectives - SST/Sabre Spec Differences

Post by Littlechicken » Fri Nov 09, 2012 11:34 pm

geoffp67 wrote:does the little lad have a choice :)
Yes he could be an MG fan :D

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Re: Small Sports Detectives - SST/Sabre Spec Differences

Post by Mateybass » Sat Nov 10, 2012 2:39 am

reliant-reviver wrote:Great stuff!

Is it me or doe sthat engine (in relation to the wiper) look awfully offset to the NS, would also explain the rather bulbous tunnel in the passenger footwell and gap to the LHS of the dash!
... and there's a heck of a curve to that windscreen in relation to the leading edge of the dash.


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Re: Small Sports Detectives - SST/Sabre Spec Differences

Post by scimjim » Sat Nov 10, 2012 10:22 am

Is the PR2 GRP Mark?


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Previous: SE5, 3 x SE5a, 2 x SE6a, 3 x SE6b, GTC, 2.9i GTC, 3 x 1600 SS1, 1300 SS1, Mk1 Ti Sabre, Mk1.5 CVH Sabre
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Re: Miscellaneous SS1/SST/Sabre questions

Post by tiny » Sat Nov 10, 2012 6:58 pm

Crouchie_b wrote:Just to add a little bit to the discussion, mine is no23, on a J reg and is defo a SST.
No tarts skirts, Built in fogs, No 'brake cooling' ducts, no spoiler, 1.8 Nissan turbo.
Then some white van man ran over the front n/s corner so after repairs at Pete Browns Race Emporium it had a new front valance (mould made if anyone ever needs one!), repaired front around headlight aperture, de-badged nose, colour coded bumpers and mr2 spoiler.
It now looks a bit different or will do when finished!


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Re: Small Sports Detectives - SST/Sabre Spec Differences

Post by scimjim » Sat Nov 10, 2012 8:37 pm

welcome Mark :-)

pics are always good - the SS1 registrar likes to know which ones had body coloured bumpers, which seats, fog lights, zzzzzzzzzzzzzz...........

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1300 SS1 (Number One) & Sarah's coupe.
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Re: Small Sports Detectives - SST/Sabre Spec Differences

Post by reliant-reviver » Sat Nov 10, 2012 10:24 pm

Hi and welcome tiny, H***ANE I presume?

Don't have any pictures on file so if you could email me with some for the archive that would be brilliant!

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Re: Small Sports Detectives - SST/Sabre Spec Differences

Post by Littlechicken » Sat Nov 10, 2012 11:58 pm

scimjim wrote:Is the PR2 GRP Mark?
It is GRP, Rover group was close to purchasing Reliant for its GRP expertise


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Re: Small Sports Detectives - SST/Sabre Spec Differences

Post by scimjim » Sun Nov 11, 2012 12:10 am

so did Reliant take a mould/moulds from the F16 and provide bodies/panels to Motor Panels & ADC for MG?


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Current: SE5 (8Ball), TI SS1 (snotty), 1600 SS1 (G97), 1600 SS1 (C686CCR), 2.5TD SE5a (diesel 5a), 6 x random other SS1s.
Previous: SE5, 3 x SE5a, 2 x SE6a, 3 x SE6b, GTC, 2.9i GTC, 3 x 1600 SS1, 1300 SS1, Mk1 Ti Sabre, Mk1.5 CVH Sabre
Chief mechanic for: 1400 K series SS1 (Megan3), 1400 CVH EFi SS1 (Grawpy), Sabre/MX5 auto (The Flying Broomstick),
1300 SS1 (Number One) & Sarah's coupe.
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Re: Small Sports Detectives - SST/Sabre Spec Differences

Post by tiny » Sun Nov 11, 2012 12:45 pm

reliant-reviver wrote:Hi and welcome tiny, H***ANE I presume?

Don't have any pictures on file so if you could email me with some for the archive that would be brilliant!

Address below >
car in storage at the moment need money and time to get back on the road although it wont take a lot to do i just want to make sure by replacing all the hoses which are still original
things like a battery and a fuel pump is really all that is needed and it could easily be back on the road

will look for some pics and if i can work out how to put them on here i will do so



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Re: Small Sports Detectives - SST/Sabre Spec Differences

Post by scimjim » Sun Nov 11, 2012 1:07 pm

how to upload pics: viewtopic.php?f=29&t=520

fuel pump: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Blue-Auto-Car ... 23245a936e

results of split fuel hoses: viewtopic.php?f=4&t=3192 - particularly important on injection cars and with modern fuel containing ethanol.

The Club also offers a storage facility: viewtopic.php?f=17&t=12011&hilit=storage

HTH :-)


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Current: SE5 (8Ball), TI SS1 (snotty), 1600 SS1 (G97), 1600 SS1 (C686CCR), 2.5TD SE5a (diesel 5a), 6 x random other SS1s.
Previous: SE5, 3 x SE5a, 2 x SE6a, 3 x SE6b, GTC, 2.9i GTC, 3 x 1600 SS1, 1300 SS1, Mk1 Ti Sabre, Mk1.5 CVH Sabre
Chief mechanic for: 1400 K series SS1 (Megan3), 1400 CVH EFi SS1 (Grawpy), Sabre/MX5 auto (The Flying Broomstick),
1300 SS1 (Number One) & Sarah's coupe.
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Re: Small Sports Detectives - SST/Sabre Spec Differences

Post by PeterG » Fri Feb 22, 2013 10:06 pm

My Sabre Mk2 M491 ser. no.2190, is the same Azure Blue colour as the one in the picture and has the same rear spoiler. It was first registered Feb. 95 in London and was bought from the administrators through Graeme Walkers Garage. If this picture is of their workshop it might even be my motor.



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Re: Small Sports Detectives - SST/Sabre Spec Differences

Post by scimjim » Fri Feb 22, 2013 10:14 pm

Which picture do you mean Peter?


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Current: SE5 (8Ball), TI SS1 (snotty), 1600 SS1 (G97), 1600 SS1 (C686CCR), 2.5TD SE5a (diesel 5a), 6 x random other SS1s.
Previous: SE5, 3 x SE5a, 2 x SE6a, 3 x SE6b, GTC, 2.9i GTC, 3 x 1600 SS1, 1300 SS1, Mk1 Ti Sabre, Mk1.5 CVH Sabre
Chief mechanic for: 1400 K series SS1 (Megan3), 1400 CVH EFi SS1 (Grawpy), Sabre/MX5 auto (The Flying Broomstick),
1300 SS1 (Number One) & Sarah's coupe.
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Re: Small Sports Detectives - SST/Sabre Spec Differences

Post by Mateybass » Wed Oct 15, 2014 1:20 am

As the evenings draw in I thought I'd resurrect this thread. I've pinched a bit of a post from the Sabre on Ebay thread:
reliant-reviver wrote:Original seats, "Sabre 1400"s were near enough all MK1.5 cars, and received the same bolstered seats as before (not the Cobra frames of the MK2), but trimmed in Ford RS Turbo '88 spec cloth.

L326 is the first example I could find fitted with these seats,
Does this mean that during the small sports production there were three different seat frames or design? Are there any side by side pictures to help identify them? I know our SST seats are different to the SS1 but I wasn't aware that there was a third style.


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Re: Small Sports Detectives - SST/Sabre Spec Differences

Post by reliant-reviver » Wed Oct 15, 2014 9:15 am

Something like this Ian?

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Excuse the pic quality. I think my phone had been drinking heavily the night before.

Interior specs are as follows to the best of my knowledge -
SST 1400 , Scimitar 1400 production - Red / Grey gradient velour
SST/ Scimitar 1800ti , Sabre MK1 - Pleated black leather (optional on 1400 cars)
Sabre 1400 MK1.5 - Ford RS Turbo '88 spec cloth (charcoal and red fleck).
Sabre 1400i (K series) - COBRA grey pleated leather. Later cars have trapezium shaped head rest.
Sabre 1400i / 1800ti MK2 special order - COBRA beige pleated leather.

Other changes include -
Colour coding of centre arm rest during MK1.5 production
Steering wheels - black trimmed leather SST through early MK2, laterly MOMO for Export / Late MK2 production
Door cards match seat facings, with the replacement of grab handle with foam armrest during MK1.5 production.
Binnacle cover changed to suit Rover instruments for MK2 production. Trimmed in grey (or beige) leather.

Notable differences from SS1 productions -
Seats not the same frame, have seen confusion over this before.
Carpet sets were 1 or 2 peice moulded synthetic for SS1. Sabre uses cut and edged grey carpet. With lead lined insulation!
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