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SS1 bushes and shocks.

Post by neil stevenson » Sat Nov 15, 2008 10:38 pm

Hi,
As I wish to upgrade/refresh the handling of my 1600cc SS1 can anyone suggest the best upgrades in order that give the best results for the least amount of outlay.

If I was to use Super Flex polyurethane bushes, which ones should I replace?

It does handle very well at present, but at 107,000 miles I am sure that shocks and bushes could be renewed to some benefit.


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Post by stewb » Sat Nov 15, 2008 10:54 pm

The bushes (which cost a fortune) do make the biggest difference & are the most worthwhile doing. The lower wishbone bushes are the most critical (and expensive) but the difference is incredible. If you're still running standard bushes they are unikely to make it though two consecutive MOT's anyway..... :shock:

Once the bushes are done then it's front shocks (Spax, Koni or Gaz / AVO). Then Rear shocks & springs.

This is all assuming you have a decent set of tyres on there (not ditchfinders etc). The bushes come before the bushes however as you don't want to ruin your nice new tyres with knackered bushes do you!!

I'm running AVO adjustables front & rear on my Sabre along with the full polybush setup. The handling & ride quality is excellent & having adjustables means you can easily alter the character of the car depending upon its usage / season. I removed the Koni (it may have been Spax - it's the kit GW sells) but do remember it being quite harsh compared with the AVO setup.

For the bushes I use Rally Design as they're the cheapest source I've found for the Poly bushes - unless anybody else knows better??

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Post by philhoward » Sun Nov 16, 2008 7:13 am

I'm guessing they were Spax, if from Graham. AVO seem to be the favourite these days.
B23KAB has some slightly tired Konis on - but AFAIK its the only one with them. I read the numbers off the units and went to Koni who told me that they were development ones, specially made and given that they were done in 1985 it was highly unlikely that they would have the details to make more..unless mine went in for rebuild at the same time!


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Post by Alf Torp » Thu Nov 20, 2008 1:11 pm

stewb wrote:The bushes (which cost a fortune) do make the biggest difference & are the most worthwhile doing. The lower wishbone bushes are the most critical (and expensive) but the difference is incredible. If you're still running standard bushes they are unikely to make it though two consecutive MOT's anyway..... :shock:

For the bushes I use Rally Design as they're the cheapest source I've found for the Poly bushes - unless anybody else knows better??

Stew
I had a look at Rally Designs website but could not find any mention of the SS1, are they made to order or does it fit from a different car?

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Post by CNHSS1 » Thu Nov 20, 2008 1:20 pm

look at Superflexes website under the Ss1 and note the part no's.

then look up vauxhall chevette on Rally Design site, the majority are the same. if you order them as chevette from RalDes they are a fair bit cheaper than if you order them as SS1 from superflex themselves!
weird but true :)

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Post by stewb » Thu Nov 20, 2008 5:15 pm

Rally design will often order parts for you from suppliers they already deal with if you give them the part numbers & you then benefit from their bulk purchase discounts!! I've got them to order samco hose kits & bushes before & they were always cheaper than anywhere else I could find.

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Post by pauluspaolo » Thu Nov 20, 2008 5:32 pm

CNHSS1 wrote:look at Superflexes website under the Ss1 and note the part no's.

then look up vauxhall chevette on Rally Design site, the majority are the same. if you order them as chevette from RalDes they are a fair bit cheaper than if you order them as SS1 from superflex themselves!
weird but true :)

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From the Superflex website listing for the SS1:
SPF2528/22 - 22mm Front Anti Roll Bar to Chassis Bush, early chassis 1 of 2 £ 5.32
SPF1695/22 - 22mm Front Anti Roll Bar to Chassis Bush, late galvanised chassis 1 of 2 £ 5.13
SPF1111 - Front Anti Roll Bar Link Pin Bush 1 of 8 £ 3.12
SPF1550 - Front Lower Wishbone Inner Bush, Stainless Steel Outer Shell & Inner Tube 1 of 4 £ 31.71
SPF1552 - Front Upper Wishbone Rear Bush & Stainless Steel Tube 1 of 2 £ 11.35
SPF1553 - Front Upper Wishbone Front Bush & Stainless Steel Tube 1 of 2 £ 8.01
SPF2529/16 - 16mm Rear Anti Roll Bar to Chassis Bush 1 of 2 £ 4.03
SPF2331 - Rear Trailing Arm Bonded Steel Shell Bush & 68mm long Stainless Steel Tube,
early non galvanised chassis 1 of 2 £ 36.02
SPF2491 - Rear Trailing Arm Bonded Steel Shell Bush & 71mm long Stainless Steel Tube (early non galvanised chassis uses 2 per car,
late galvanised chassis uses 4 per car) A/R £ 36.63

From the Rally Design site - listed in the Vauxhall/Opel section under poly suspension bushes:
Opel Manta B (Mk 1 Cavalier & Kadett) 21mm Front Roll Bar 2 SF1695/21 £5.00
Opel Manta B (Mk 1 Cavalier & Kadett) Front Roll Bar Link Bush 8 SF1111 £1.95
Opel Manta B (Mk 1 Cavalier & Kadett) Front Lower Inner Wishbone Bush (Stainless inner and outer sleeve) 4 SF1550 £21.27
Opel Manta B (Mk 1 Cavalier & Kadett) Front Upper Wishbone Bush, Front 2 SF1552 £9.50 -
Opel Manta B (Mk 1 Cavalier & Kadett) Front Upper Wishbone Bush, Rear 2 SF1553 £6.70
GM Manta & Chevette Rear Panhard Rod Bush 2 SF030 £4.09
GM Manta & Chevette Rear Axle Link, Front Bush 2 SF402 £9.13
GM Manta & Chevette Rear Axle Link, Rear Bush 2 SF403 £7.89


Not sure the Chevette/Manta rear axle bushes have any relevance to the SS1 but I've included them nonetheless. I've already got the upper wishbone bushes & a/r/b to chassis bushes (not fitted them yet) but I know where I'll be getting the lower w/bone & a/r/b drop link bushes from :D

Top tip - great stuff :)



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Post by CNHSS1 » Thu Nov 20, 2008 5:45 pm

only front upper and lower wishbones, Fr anti roll bar droplink bushes and Fr anti roll bar chassis clamp bushes are chevette on an SS1/SST/Sabre, rear trailing arm bushes are bespoke from superflex for teh scimitars


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Post by steve bryant » Fri Nov 21, 2008 8:15 am

i dont want to hi jack this thread but the front shock outer bushes i have never seen them mentioned as a possable polybush replacement, i have replaced mine twice with rubber and lately with ertalite [poly bushes type]they seem to take a hell of a bashing.



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Post by CNHSS1 » Fri Nov 21, 2008 9:10 am

most aftermarket shock maunfacturers can now supply poly equivs for the pants rubber items.
If i remember correctly, Raz had a few problems with fitting some shocks he had, and spoke to Gaz shocks who did a range of sizes and bores.


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Re: SS1 bushes and shocks.

Post by joelanglois » Thu Jun 10, 2010 8:53 pm

Hi!

Can someone tell me the URL / post the link to SS1 trailing arm polybushes please..

I can't find them on the SuperFlex / Rally Design websites!?

Thanks, Joe



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Re: SS1 bushes and shocks.

Post by scimjim » Thu Jun 10, 2010 9:29 pm

they've all disappeared from the superflex site :shock:

the whole Chevette listing has gone.

you might be best phoning them


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Re: SS1 bushes and shocks.

Post by reliant-reviver » Mon Jun 21, 2010 5:05 pm

Just shopped around for the best deal I could on bushes, using my tool of choice - the phone.
Whilst Superflex don't list the bushes on the website they do know what your on about when you talk to them.
The prices I found on the 8 front bushes were;

Rally design (Supeflex bushes)
Stainless shells and tubes £145.95 inc. Vat but + £9.50 postage

Superflex themselves
Stainless shells and tubes £195 inc vat and postage
Zinc outer shells and tubes £162.94 inc vat and postage

Super pro
Zinc outer shells and tubes £154.23 inc vat and postage

The rally design website is still running 2004 prices, and even the person I spoke to at Superflex said that she had quoted me their old price which was due to go up when they update the new website.


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Post by CNHSS1 » Mon Jun 21, 2010 5:09 pm

another big tick for Rally design then eh? :wink:


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Re: SS1 bushes and shocks.

Post by reliant-reviver » Mon Jun 21, 2010 5:15 pm

I'll wait for the to turn up before I sing any praises. Was very tempted to go with Super Pro actually as the guy knew exactly what he was talking about and was very helpful.


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