Type 9 gearbox oil

Moderators: scimjim, Roger Pennington, Lukeyboy46, philhoward, erikscimitardemon

User avatar
nickkeyser
RSSOC Member
Posts: 2711
Joined: Thu Aug 28, 2008 2:58 pm
Has thanked: 12 times
Been thanked: 16 times

Type 9 gearbox oil

Post by nickkeyser » Fri Apr 21, 2017 7:11 am

What's the best oil for an SS1's type 9, and how's easiest to get it in there? The fill / level check bung is pretty awkward to access in the tunnel.


Image
"Simplfy, then add lightness" - Colin Chapman

User avatar
CNHSS1
RSSOC Member
Posts: 13246
Joined: Tue Aug 22, 2006 5:13 pm
Location: Shrewsbury, Shropshire
Has thanked: 95 times
Been thanked: 153 times
Contact:

Re: Type 9 gearbox oil

Post by CNHSS1 » Fri Apr 21, 2017 7:47 am

Hole cutter in tunnel and then add rivnuts to attach a cover plate?

Can't remember what oils suitable sorry, but they're pretty picky, the wrong oil gives a bualky shift. Maybe ask BGH, Burtons or similar?


Racing is life, everything before and after, is just waiting--Steve McQueen
6 time Class Champ, 2006 & 2014 SSSC Champion

RIP Batmobile, await the Rise of Dark Knight 8)
Sabre 'Light Sabre' 360hp!!
Image

User avatar
MadMax
Posts: 68
Joined: Thu Aug 27, 2015 10:25 am
Been thanked: 1 time

Re: Type 9 gearbox oil

Post by MadMax » Fri Apr 21, 2017 7:48 am

Burton's recommend 75w90 semi synthetic. I'd use Shockproof oil for your application. Either invest in a gearbox oil pump (sometimes expensive) or do what I do; use a small squeezy bottle and a length of pipe to push it up into the gearbox. You will have to fill the bottle several times and your hands will be cramped up by the time the gearbox is full. :lol:
I've heard of some people drilling holes in the tub to access the oil plug, might not be a bad idea in a car like yours that's already stripped out. You could blank it with a blanking grommet once you're done?


Max Benton
Reading, Berks
'A HOT N' - Gold 1600 Small Sports
'Zeus' - Yellow Se5a

User avatar
peter freeman
RSSOC Member
Posts: 8632
Joined: Thu Aug 31, 2006 12:12 pm
Location: Newcastle
Has thanked: 9 times
Been thanked: 239 times
Contact:

Re: Type 9 gearbox oil

Post by peter freeman » Fri Apr 21, 2017 8:56 am

I bought a pump which fits on to a drill to fill the gearbox - I also use it to pump out and re-fill the diff as SS1's don't have a drain plug in the diff ( some can be drained by removing a cover bolt I believe ). The pump cost me 50p at the time from a market stall and is still going strong.



User avatar
philhoward
RSSOC Member
Posts: 22614
Joined: Tue Aug 29, 2006 5:41 pm
Location: Staffs, UK
Has thanked: 32 times
Been thanked: 404 times
Contact:

Re: Type 9 gearbox oil

Post by philhoward » Fri Apr 21, 2017 8:57 am

Hole saw and a grommet - a plate and rivnuts if you're feeling posh :)


Phil Howard
Scimitarweb Forum Admin
SS1's - 1600 Rooster Turbo; Sabre Mk1.5
SE5a Barn Find Project 24 Valve conversion
Previous: SE5/5a/SS1 No.1/SS1 Rooster/SS1 1800Ti
http://www.ss1turbo.com
Never try and argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level, then beat you based on experience.

User avatar
scimjim
RSSOC Member
Posts: 33065
Joined: Sun Oct 01, 2006 10:08 pm
Location: Gloucester
Has thanked: 106 times
Been thanked: 614 times

Re: Type 9 gearbox oil

Post by scimjim » Fri Apr 21, 2017 9:10 am

I used Comma SX75W90 GL4 semi-synthetic.

And cut holes in the chassis and tub :-)


Jim King

Current: SE5 (8Ball), TI SS1 (snotty), 1600 SS1 (G97), 1600 SS1 (C686CCR), 2.5TD SE5a (diesel 5a), 6 x random other SS1s.
Previous: SE5, 3 x SE5a, 2 x SE6a, 3 x SE6b, GTC, 2.9i GTC, 3 x 1600 SS1, 1300 SS1, Mk1 Ti Sabre, Mk1.5 CVH Sabre
Chief mechanic for: 1400 K series SS1 (Megan3), 1400 CVH EFi SS1 (Grawpy), Sabre/MX5 auto (The Flying Broomstick),
1300 SS1 (Number One) & Sarah's coupe.
CURE THE FAULT - NOT THE SYMPTOMS

User avatar
nickkeyser
RSSOC Member
Posts: 2711
Joined: Thu Aug 28, 2008 2:58 pm
Has thanked: 12 times
Been thanked: 16 times

Re: Type 9 gearbox oil

Post by nickkeyser » Fri Apr 21, 2017 9:18 am

Thanks chaps. I take it I can't fill it through the tail section by pouring it in the gearstick hole?


Image
"Simplfy, then add lightness" - Colin Chapman

User avatar
scimjim
RSSOC Member
Posts: 33065
Joined: Sun Oct 01, 2006 10:08 pm
Location: Gloucester
Has thanked: 106 times
Been thanked: 614 times

Re: Type 9 gearbox oil

Post by scimjim » Fri Apr 21, 2017 9:32 am

Yes, if you jack the back up quite high. There is a lip where the sections join as the hole isn't at the bottom of the joint.


Jim King

Current: SE5 (8Ball), TI SS1 (snotty), 1600 SS1 (G97), 1600 SS1 (C686CCR), 2.5TD SE5a (diesel 5a), 6 x random other SS1s.
Previous: SE5, 3 x SE5a, 2 x SE6a, 3 x SE6b, GTC, 2.9i GTC, 3 x 1600 SS1, 1300 SS1, Mk1 Ti Sabre, Mk1.5 CVH Sabre
Chief mechanic for: 1400 K series SS1 (Megan3), 1400 CVH EFi SS1 (Grawpy), Sabre/MX5 auto (The Flying Broomstick),
1300 SS1 (Number One) & Sarah's coupe.
CURE THE FAULT - NOT THE SYMPTOMS

User avatar
Roger Pennington
RSSOC Member
Posts: 18465
Joined: Tue Aug 29, 2006 9:43 pm
Has thanked: 85 times
Been thanked: 388 times

Re: Type 9 gearbox oil

Post by Roger Pennington » Fri Apr 21, 2017 1:18 pm

Alternatively, if you've got one of these lying about:

Image

cut off the spray nozzle, bend the end to a convenient shape, put in the oil and pump up the pressure, insert in gearbox and open valve.....

(may help to warm the oil in cold weather)


....Roger

RSSOC member (since 1982)
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Image

"Condition can be bought at any time; Originality, once lost, is gone forever" - Doug Nye

User avatar
reliant-reviver
RSSOC Member
Posts: 4138
Joined: Thu Jun 14, 2007 8:05 pm
Location: Beighton, Sheffield
Has thanked: 38 times
Been thanked: 61 times

Re: Type 9 gearbox oil

Post by reliant-reviver » Fri Apr 21, 2017 5:19 pm

I have a metre or so length of stiff plastic pipe which i heated and bent a 90 degree into the end of. Slips into The neck of an oil bottle with the bottom cut out.
Post it down the side of the gearbox from the engine bay and hold it to the screen with the wiper and top up periodically as it drains in over about 10 minutes till tinkling out into a catch tray underneath.

Personally i hate lazy access holes. I think this is why i cannot form a fuller freindship with Jim King ;-p


Philip Andrew. Self assured SS1 know-it-all
Current : SS1 1300 "KMG" - Sideways round a track near you 2017
Also: SS1 1800ti big rebuild on hiatus.

User avatar
tony.idle
RSSOC Member
Posts: 3435
Joined: Mon Jan 29, 2007 4:31 pm
Location: Kendal, Cumbria
Has thanked: 1 time
Been thanked: 53 times

Re: Type 9 gearbox oil

Post by tony.idle » Fri Apr 21, 2017 7:27 pm

reliant-reviver wrote:
Personally i hate lazy access holes. I think this is why i cannot form a fuller freindship with Jim King ;-p
..... and the bonnet isn't a lazy access hole? :D :D


Regards

Tony

Embrace your feminine side - RTFM

RSSOC 2332 since 1981
Past: 2x5A, GTC. Current: SST, Smart, Hymer Motorhome, Rialto, Robin, Bug, MZ Skorpion x2.

User avatar
scimjim
RSSOC Member
Posts: 33065
Joined: Sun Oct 01, 2006 10:08 pm
Location: Gloucester
Has thanked: 106 times
Been thanked: 614 times

Re: Type 9 gearbox oil

Post by scimjim » Fri Apr 21, 2017 7:28 pm

Pah - only G97 has access holes. I use a killspray for the road cars :-)


Jim King

Current: SE5 (8Ball), TI SS1 (snotty), 1600 SS1 (G97), 1600 SS1 (C686CCR), 2.5TD SE5a (diesel 5a), 6 x random other SS1s.
Previous: SE5, 3 x SE5a, 2 x SE6a, 3 x SE6b, GTC, 2.9i GTC, 3 x 1600 SS1, 1300 SS1, Mk1 Ti Sabre, Mk1.5 CVH Sabre
Chief mechanic for: 1400 K series SS1 (Megan3), 1400 CVH EFi SS1 (Grawpy), Sabre/MX5 auto (The Flying Broomstick),
1300 SS1 (Number One) & Sarah's coupe.
CURE THE FAULT - NOT THE SYMPTOMS

User avatar
reliant-reviver
RSSOC Member
Posts: 4138
Joined: Thu Jun 14, 2007 8:05 pm
Location: Beighton, Sheffield
Has thanked: 38 times
Been thanked: 61 times

Re: Type 9 gearbox oil

Post by reliant-reviver » Fri Apr 21, 2017 7:49 pm

When you remember to full them that is haha!


Philip Andrew. Self assured SS1 know-it-all
Current : SS1 1300 "KMG" - Sideways round a track near you 2017
Also: SS1 1800ti big rebuild on hiatus.

User avatar
GavinR
RSSOC Member
Posts: 393
Joined: Thu Dec 02, 2010 12:31 am
Location: Bristol
Has thanked: 2 times
Been thanked: 10 times

Re: Type 9 gearbox oil

Post by GavinR » Fri Apr 21, 2017 7:59 pm

nickkeyser wrote:Thanks chaps. I take it I can't fill it through the tail section by pouring it in the gearstick hole?
scimjim wrote:Yes, if you jack the back up quite high. There is a lip where the sections join as the hole isn't at the bottom of the joint.
You shouldn't be able to do this - there's an oil seal in the tail housing where the selector shaft passes through to stop gearbox oil getting back to the gear stick


GavinR
RSSOC Member 3513
1971 SE5a

User avatar
scimjim
RSSOC Member
Posts: 33065
Joined: Sun Oct 01, 2006 10:08 pm
Location: Gloucester
Has thanked: 106 times
Been thanked: 614 times

Re: Type 9 gearbox oil

Post by scimjim » Fri Apr 21, 2017 9:20 pm

Ah - okay. My response was based on looking at a stripped box, obviously deficient a seal :oops:
image.jpeg
image.jpeg (109.4 KiB) Viewed 435 times


Jim King

Current: SE5 (8Ball), TI SS1 (snotty), 1600 SS1 (G97), 1600 SS1 (C686CCR), 2.5TD SE5a (diesel 5a), 6 x random other SS1s.
Previous: SE5, 3 x SE5a, 2 x SE6a, 3 x SE6b, GTC, 2.9i GTC, 3 x 1600 SS1, 1300 SS1, Mk1 Ti Sabre, Mk1.5 CVH Sabre
Chief mechanic for: 1400 K series SS1 (Megan3), 1400 CVH EFi SS1 (Grawpy), Sabre/MX5 auto (The Flying Broomstick),
1300 SS1 (Number One) & Sarah's coupe.
CURE THE FAULT - NOT THE SYMPTOMS

Post Reply

Return to “SS1/SST/Sabre”