Focus 2000cc Zetec --> SS1

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Re: Focus 2000cc Zetec --> SS1

Post by pauluspaolo » Fri Feb 17, 2017 12:46 pm

Nick wrote:Can't resist the obvious comment, 166 bhp easy from a Nissan turbo with very modest spend,
But it probably wasn't an 1800ti he swapped the Zetec for.

I've said it before & I'll say it again: if you want a fast, cheap/reasonably priced SS1 buy an 1800ti! Upgrading a CVH to a Zetec, or any other engine for that matter, makes little/no sense really. It's a big sense of achievement when the thing bursts into life though & I like the fact that even though the car looks standard from the outside it isn't :)



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Re: Focus 2000cc Zetec --> SS1

Post by Alan SS1 » Fri Feb 17, 2017 1:45 pm

I'd agree unless you have a desire to do somat 'different' or the existing engine is toast and you have a wreck with engine sitting there (for free)

modern electronics makes life so more difficult than in the old days when you only needed to provide fuel, air, and a power to dizzy ! :-)

but I guess the extra ooomph from modern engine can easily outstrip an old engine


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Re: Focus 2000cc Zetec --> SS1

Post by CNHSS1 » Fri Feb 17, 2017 3:26 pm

There were many Tis when new, certainly a lot less now, so I think we will see more and more conversions to can cars. CVH is much maligned by some, but can be made a fast road spec reasonably easily albeit not for pennies. I think like the Essex though, finding a good base engine on which to breathe some extra grunt is getting more difficult hence low mileage and 25yrs more modern ex Mondeo engines becoming more attractive. 5years time the tipping point of costs vs hassle vs reward may well see the cvh the less common route


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Re: Focus 2000cc Zetec --> SS1

Post by chats371 » Sat Feb 18, 2017 7:55 pm

As some already know, I have also done the Zetec upgrade but completed it as part of a full SS1 rebuild. I have installed a 1.8 Zetec Silvertop 130bhp from a mk5 escort XR3i. It was an EFI engine and I stayed with the standard setup. The modifications required to get it to fit are quite lengthy but easier for me to install as it was just a rolling chassis at the time. I have not had it checked on a rolling road but I can tell you it is as fun to drive in a straight line as my old BMW Z3 2.8 was. Once I sort the final issue which has taken a while to work out the cause too (Fuel vapourisation issue). It will run lovely (which it does at the moment once warmed up but cold/hot start issues at present).

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Re: Focus 2000cc Zetec --> SS1

Post by BusaPhill » Sun Feb 19, 2017 1:59 pm

If you need a bit more power.
What about using a 1800 CVH from the sierra range.
Would be a easier swap. Maybe.


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Re: Focus 2000cc Zetec --> SS1

Post by philhoward » Sun Feb 19, 2017 2:14 pm

Lower power than the 1600 CVH..


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Re: Focus 2000cc Zetec --> SS1

Post by scimjim » Sun Feb 19, 2017 3:53 pm

But more torque - hence the classic trials like them.

Dizzy is on the front or often found with CFi.

Also is the best starting point for a 1900 conversion, rather than a massive overbore on a 1600.


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