Small Sports Detectives - SST/Sabre Spec Differences

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Re: Small Sports Detectives - SST/Sabre Spec Differences

Post by scimjim » Wed Nov 07, 2012 8:17 am

We use a "dog bay" - if an aircraft on the "production line" for scheduled maintenance has any large unscheduled defects or emergent work, it comes out of the system and a "troubleshooting crew" fix it in the dog bay. It will then filter back into the line at a convenient (but later) point - or the troubleshooting crew could finish the scheduled maint too.


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Re: Small Sports Detectives - SST/Sabre Spec Differences

Post by Ben Kenobe » Wed Nov 07, 2012 8:51 am

Unscheduled Defects - does that you mean you also scheduled some too? - great way to keep yourself in a job ;-)

Difference is Jim that you guys have pretty high standards when all the banter dies down, I don't think that Reliant did have a very good QA system or one that worked at least, either that or they simply didn't appreciate the issues, easy done with new technigues and technologies. They were after all amongst the first manufacturers to use composites so shouldn't be too hard I suppose.


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Re: Small Sports Detectives - SST/Sabre Spec Differences

Post by scimjim » Wed Nov 07, 2012 9:11 am

The point is, it's more efficient to employ a team away from the production line that deals with anything complicated or out of the ordinary.

That is what I think the photo of your yellow car in the workshop shows - it's not a production line, the white SST/Sabre in the background is "non-standard", perhaps the other cars are having unscheduled work/rectification carried out?


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Re: Small Sports Detectives - SST/Sabre Spec Differences

Post by philhoward » Wed Nov 07, 2012 9:12 am

...or is it being used as a Development area?? Could even be one and the same..


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Re: Small Sports Detectives - SST/Sabre Spec Differences

Post by Ben Kenobe » Wed Nov 07, 2012 9:39 am

I do wonder even which Two Gates building that picture was taken in Jim since based in information I have the area of the factory South of the A5 did not belong to Reliant post March 1993, Shenstone was closed and Kettlebrook turned over to Metrocab. Trying to get some answers on this topic at the moment.


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Re: Small Sports Detectives - SST/Sabre Spec Differences

Post by scimjim » Wed Nov 07, 2012 10:41 am

The aerial view from 3 wheelers.com that you're quoting from doesn't identify all of the buildings. Elvis also states in his 1993 tour pages that "Production of the Robin was all on one site at Tamworth though the Rialto was made elsewhere." So they must have had other buildings in 1993 ( I can't find a definite date for selling Shenstone?).


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Re: Small Sports Detectives - SST/Sabre Spec Differences

Post by Ben Kenobe » Wed Nov 07, 2012 10:53 am

There are many different opinions I' have found in various places and I have no information re some of them and some that I have is 'contradictory' plus the usage changed as time passed, I'm trying to clarify it all but struggling a bit, trying to raise Mr Cropper ...

Anyone has any accurate maps and building designators / function information / timeline I'd be more than happy to correlate.


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Re: Small Sports Detectives - SST/Sabre Spec Differences

Post by scimjim » Wed Nov 07, 2012 10:59 am

Come to the NEC and you can pick Mark's brain - Dave will obviously be there too and he has been known to bring some photo albums with him :-)


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Re: Small Sports Detectives - SST/Sabre Spec Differences

Post by Ben Kenobe » Wed Nov 07, 2012 11:04 am

I've already been into Mr Poole - think he's getting fed up of my questions ;-) - perhaps I could take some time out and pop to the NEC, must admit it wasn't on the list got a whole bunch of car work to do.


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Re: Small Sports Detectives - SST/Sabre Spec Differences

Post by scimjim » Thu Nov 08, 2012 12:58 pm

okay, here's some recent photo's:

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Re: Small Sports Detectives - SST/Sabre Spec Differences

Post by scimjim » Thu Nov 08, 2012 1:07 pm

and to really throw the cat amongst the pigeons:

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Re: Small Sports Detectives - SST/Sabre Spec Differences

Post by Ben Kenobe » Thu Nov 08, 2012 1:14 pm

57 !!! ??

Doesn't line up - 57 isn't a 'K' plate what number is on 2057's panel I wonder.


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Re: Small Sports Detectives - SST/Sabre Spec Differences

Post by reliant-reviver » Thu Nov 08, 2012 4:51 pm

Been mentioned before, but treat SS1 and SST as model codes really. The SST body plates carry on for quite some time on the Scimitars and Sabres.


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Re: Small Sports Detectives - SST/Sabre Spec Differences

Post by reliant-reviver » Thu Nov 08, 2012 4:52 pm

As for the white one, I regard it as a Scimitar 1400, shimples!

I'd love to know the chassis and reg of Dan Lockton's green Scimitar - SST body, with added? MK2 spoiler.

SST's don't magically stop at no. 44.
Actually it's more like no.4, which as far as I know, the last one badged as such.
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Re: Small Sports Detectives - SST/Sabre Spec Differences

Post by Ben Kenobe » Thu Nov 08, 2012 4:55 pm

The Red one's not an SST though is it, Sabre Mk1 - but I thought that the plates were aligned to the chassis number - 2038 definitely is, the Sabre don't have one ...

I think that perhaps knowing the number on this plate where it exists needs adding to the cars record (assuming that it isn't already of course) ..


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