Fuel smell

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Re: Fuel smell

Post by AJL Electronics » Sun Jan 01, 2017 8:57 pm

Firstly, Gates genuine hose is difficult to find in this country and secondly, in my opinion (others will disagree) R6 is not Ethanol safe anyway. Minimum spec is R9 or better. Best of all is Cohline as sold in my webshop, details below. Your car, your life. What do you value them at?


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Re: Fuel smell

Post by philhoward » Sun Jan 01, 2017 9:06 pm

Hope you kept the receipt - take it back as not fit for purpose.


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Re: Fuel smell

Post by scimjim » Sun Jan 01, 2017 9:09 pm

philhoward wrote:Hope you kept the receipt - take it back as not fit for purpose.
My point exactly.

R6 should be ethanol proof at low pressure (I tend to believe independent international standard laboratory tests :-))


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Re: Fuel smell

Post by philhoward » Sun Jan 01, 2017 9:13 pm

If R6 is suitable for U.K. Unleaded then theirs is fake and should be removed from sale as a recall IMHO as they are selling unsafe components.

If it isn't, then they still shouldn't be selling it for the same reason.

If it had happened to me, I'd bypass them completely and go straight to Trading Standards but I've (luckily) got some OK R6 in stock and some of AJL's as well just in case.


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Re: Fuel smell

Post by metalmoth » Mon Jan 02, 2017 1:12 pm

Ok I think I was a bit hasty blaming the new R6 hose as I have found the culprit. It appears that the plastic fuel line has split where it was inside the new hose possibly when the clip was tightened a few weeks ago. I used the correct clips thoughout. The split is about 10mm long . I shall now be replacing these with metal ones


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Re: Fuel smell

Post by Oldconn » Mon Jan 02, 2017 2:00 pm

As a matter of habit, whenever you are clamping onto plastic tube, using an external circlip , you should have a metal sleeve INSIDE the end of the tube to prevent squashing or splitting. That was one of the first things I learned while training in a boat factory, where we had to installall manner of hydraulic,fuel and gas lines .


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Re: Fuel smell

Post by scmarf » Mon Jan 02, 2017 2:14 pm

Oldconn wrote:As a matter of habit, whenever you are clamping onto plastic tube, using an external circlip , you should have a metal sleeve INSIDE the end of the tube to prevent squashing or splitting. That was one of the first things I learned while training in a boat factory, where we had to installall manner of hydraulic,fuel and gas lines .
Interesting. Presumably not too thick metal sleeve to prevent a partial restriction? Don't remember seeing any on my cars but it does make sense or maybe the spring clip thingys are designed to grip but not crush?

Another line in Andy's fuel hose emporium maybe? :wink:


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Re: Fuel smell

Post by metalmoth » Mon Jan 02, 2017 3:58 pm

I would post the picture of the pipe but I don't know how to do it. I am a bit of a dinosaur when it comes to these things!


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Re: Fuel smell

Post by AJL Electronics » Mon Jan 02, 2017 4:09 pm

scmarf wrote:Don't remember seeing any on my cars but it does make sense
3mm sleeve in the expansion bottle return on SS1?


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Re: Fuel smell

Post by Dennis Nicholas » Mon Jan 02, 2017 4:13 pm

The correct clips to use when fitting the rubber over the nylon lines are those springy ones with the 3 ears. They provide more than enough pressure evenly around the circumference to hold everything in place and seal. The other jubilee type clips as used on water hoses will distort the hose/nylon..especially with over enthusiastic tightening thinking a better seal will be made.....don't ask how I know.......it's called experience.

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Re: Fuel smell

Post by ScimmyMike » Mon Jan 02, 2017 6:13 pm

Seemingly my filler setup has always been wrong then going off earlier comments, I've both flexy hose and metal parts internally fitted as when I took it apart, I guess I'll be taking the tank out again next weekend, not an enjoyable job at all in my opinion, still gives me a chance to rectify the cock up on the incorrect fitting of the sender unit that I paid a company to do and didn't realise till fitted that they'd welded the fixing ring outside the tank rather than inside meaning that it shows empty when there's 40 litres left in the tank due to it's raised height (I've VDO gauges fitted not standard ones)


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Re: Fuel smell

Post by metalmoth » Mon Jan 02, 2017 10:15 pm

Can you use copper pipe instead of the plastic ones? Anybody done that front to rear?


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Re: Fuel smell

Post by AJL Electronics » Mon Jan 02, 2017 10:35 pm

No, but you can use Kunifer.


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Re: Fuel smell

Post by metalmoth » Mon Jan 02, 2017 11:08 pm

Ok thanks


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Re: Fuel smell

Post by Dave McGregor » Tue Jan 03, 2017 9:33 am

Why cant you use copper pipe?



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