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Youngest 6A?

Post by badger » Mon Jan 16, 2012 11:17 am

My shed of a SE6A was cobbled together in Dec 79 and registered 32 years ago tomorrow (17 01 80) and I wonder are there any younger 6As out there?


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Re: Youngest 6A?

Post by scimjim » Mon Jan 16, 2012 11:40 am

it's one of the last 30 SE6a built in Dec 79 during 6b production - what's the last 4 digits of your chassis number?


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Re: Youngest 6A?

Post by badger » Mon Jan 16, 2012 6:37 pm

the last four are 5401


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Re: Youngest 6A?

Post by scimjim » Mon Jan 16, 2012 7:09 pm

5401 is a November car (L for month) - not December (M) - I wasn't used.

which means there are/were 57 SE6a younger than yours.


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Re: Youngest 6A?

Post by james couper » Mon Jan 16, 2012 7:21 pm

My SE6A which i have had for about 23 years was bulit in Dec. 1977, Reg 1978 , therefore about the middle of the SE6A production run.



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Re: Youngest 6A?

Post by scimjim » Mon Jan 16, 2012 7:32 pm

production started at 1551 in Aug 1976 and ended at 5486 in Dec 79 (3908 cars as some of those numbers are 6b) - so exact middle car is 3505 (one of the last Oct 77 cars)

Dec 77 production was approx 3688 - 3804 so not far off at all :-)

feel free to pick me up on my maths :-)


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Re: Youngest 6A?

Post by james couper » Mon Jan 16, 2012 7:55 pm

Just looked last four digits 3793 not far off middle, colour quartz green, with havanna brown waist strip



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Re: Youngest 6A?

Post by scimjim » Mon Jan 16, 2012 10:19 pm

I was about to say that 52 = Greengage Yellow but there's been a long standing question over the colour chart in "The Scimitar & its Forebears" so I looked in the front of the workshop manual and discovered the error:

anyone with TSAIF may wish to amend page 205 as follows:

51 - Russet Red - should be 53
52 - Greengage Yellow - should be 51
53 - Quartz Green - should be 52

also 45 - Royal Red isn't shown in my 1978 manual but 45 - Beaujolais Red is.


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Re: Youngest 6A?

Post by Roger Pennington » Mon Jan 16, 2012 10:49 pm

scimjim wrote:I was about to say that 52 = Greengage Yellow but there's been a long standing question over the colour chart in "The Scimitar & its Forebears" so I looked in the front of the workshop manual and discovered the error:

anyone with TSAIF may wish to amend page 205 as follows:

51 - Russet Red - should be 53
52 - Greengage Yellow - should be 51
53 - Quartz Green - should be 52

also 45 - Royal Red isn't shown in my 1978 manual but 45 - Beaujolais Red is.
That's interesting - my copy of TSAIF (a 1987 (first?) edition) has

51 - Greengage Yellow
52 - Russet Red
53 - Quartz Green

and 45 as Beaujolais Red

So it's a different version of wrong! :roll:

[edit - typo in date of first edition corrected! :) ]


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Re: Youngest 6A?

Post by scimjim » Mon Jan 16, 2012 11:09 pm

ah - my first editions (Oct 87) are both signed by Don, so my working copy is a second edition (July 90) - with 5a start date corrected :-)


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Re: Youngest 6A?

Post by jeff hoole » Mon Jan 16, 2012 11:23 pm

What chassis number did the 2.8 6b start at Jim ? one of mine is 5490

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Re: Youngest 6A?

Post by scimjim » Mon Jan 16, 2012 11:31 pm

5429 was the first 6b Jeff - 5486 was the last of the 30 6a that are dotted around Dec 79.
5493 was the last 6b built in 79 before all GTE production was halted for 5 months to build the first batch of 340 GTC


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Re: Youngest 6A?

Post by dcw7095 » Mon Jan 16, 2012 11:53 pm

Mine was registered in September 79 and is chassis 5137 - which implies that Reliant made 350+ cars in the last 4 months of 1979. Looking at your figures this is probably right if they made 3908 cars in 40 months...??


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Re: Youngest 6A?

Post by scimjim » Tue Jan 17, 2012 12:06 am

not quite - 5137 may have been registered in September but it was built in July.

give or take a couple, production numbers were:

Jul = 5100-5155
Aug = 5156-5229
Sept = 5230-5268
Oct = 5269-5355
Nov = 5356-5436
Dec = 5437-5493

That makes 394 SE6a/b in 6 months (don't forget they were building other cars too :-))


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Re: Youngest 6A?

Post by dcw7095 » Tue Jan 17, 2012 12:17 am

Interesting... still quite impressive though. How many other specialist car manufacturers would have been churning out 1000+ cars a year at the time, I wonder. Quite a hive of industry.


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