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Post by R1_pete » Fri Nov 23, 2018 2:32 pm

Hi all, I just picked up my first Scimitar, very much a project needing lots of cosmetic work and a gearbox swap, but, most important, the chassis is fine, outriggers, suspension points, the lot...

My plan is to get it up and running and MOT as it is, with an engine swap next winter, I cannot decide between a Rover V8 or a Ford 2.9I, either way it will be EFI’d. I have a Rover engine and 5 speed box, but, I used to have a Capri 3000GT with that side link box, and really liked how it felt, so wondering if anyone is using a 2.8 or 2.9 with the side link box? I can get an engine for about the price of a steel timing gear for the Essex, so sticking with the current engine is a non starter..

Any experience of the cologne and side link box would be useful...

Thanks.

Pete.



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Post by peter freeman » Fri Nov 23, 2018 2:53 pm

I fitted the Rover v8 to my 6 - two problems , the gear stick needs to be from the Jag xJ6 or Sherpa van to come up through the same hole as the original gears stick- the Rover gear stick goes further back and is therefore not suitable 2nd thing is the exhaust manifolds which you need to have made and are therefore expensive - I suppose you could mate on to the Rover cast manifolds if money is tight. I ran my 6 with the Rover V8 for 20 years and apart from a new cam and lifters never had any problems with it - best engine for the 6's IMO



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Post by scimjim » Fri Nov 23, 2018 4:22 pm

Welcome :D

I presume you haven’t seen my post on locostbuilders - the Essex and Cologne bellhousings aren’t the same.


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Post by R1_pete » Fri Nov 23, 2018 5:29 pm

Thank You.

The conflicting advice always amazes Jim, I just picked up your ‘definative’ response.. ... looks like its V8 time next winter then...

Manifolds and shortened gear lever remote aren’t a problem, I’m building a serpentine 4.0L which is about 40mm shorter than a distributor engine to the front pulley, so a bit of room to play with a short remote.

I just finished a RV8 in a Porsche 944, machining and fabrication isn’t a problem... I made all the adapters, manifolds and exhaust system...



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Post by scimjim » Fri Nov 23, 2018 6:48 pm

Sounds nice - there’s several V8 scimitars on here - some info on v8church too.


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Post by Roger Pennington » Mon Nov 26, 2018 10:12 pm

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Post by Ollieoldbeard » Tue Dec 04, 2018 10:15 pm

Does the Jag XJ6 gearbox fit straight on the RV8, bell housing and spline & stuff ?
I've gotta 79 RV8 squirreled away to use somewhere but need a manual box for it



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Post by scimjim » Tue Dec 04, 2018 10:37 pm

I’ve never heard of the jag box being used on the rover, so highly unlikely it will be a straight fit? Straight fit is LT77 or R380 (both rare in 2wd form now) - or an auto?


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Post by peter freeman » Tue Dec 04, 2018 11:14 pm

Not the Jag box used but the gear change from the rear of the box



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Post by gtcse8 » Tue Dec 04, 2018 11:16 pm

R1_pete wrote:
Fri Nov 23, 2018 2:32 pm
Any experience of the cologne and side link box would be useful...

Pete the "manual SE6b and GTC came with the 2.8 and "side link gearbox and I have still got an SE6b with this box and overdrive fitted, so it`s a very easy fit for any Scimitar without resorting to extreme engineering.
IF you wanted to waste your money and time on fitting a 2.9 EFI or V8 then that`s your call.

I personally would not bother, unless you have the money and time to spare.

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