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8 Ball

Post by scimjim » Sun Jan 16, 2011 9:33 pm

For those that don't know - 8 Ball is a 1970 SE5 co-owned between Richie and myself.

In 2008, I dragged Richie along to Curborough and he declared that he wanted a black SE5 with Wolfrace. Amazingly, one popped up on EBay almost as soon as we got back and it was only in Weymouth!

Apparently the PPO was a mechanic, who'd rebuilt the engine and done all of the mechanicals but then emigrated to NZ and sold it to his next door neighbour (the PO) - who was a painter by trade. He did the gloss black but never finished putting it all back together.

We dragged it home and after a few days had it running:
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there were still loads of jobs to do though, strip and clean the wiper motor, fit new tyres - it came with Cobra slots and thanks to Geraint, we got a set of Wolfies with good tyres then sold the Cobras. We fitted stainless wheel nuts, a braided oil pipe, a carbon fibre dash, a mountney steering wheel, a stereo, new brake servo, handbrake cable, polybushed the front suspension, rear window seals and all of the usual service items.
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NOTE - The wishbones are deliberately fitted upside down to lower the nose by about 1"
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the MOT in finest RSSOC traditions was the day before Curborough 2009 following a brake master cylinder failure the day before and an alternator failure as it drove out of the test centre :mrgreen: - it then made its first trip in 12 years (to Curbs and back with a little playing on the track) without missing a beat.
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Current: SE5 (8Ball), TI SS1 (snotty), 1600 SS1 (G97), 1600 SS1 (C686CCR), 2.5TD SE5a (diesel 5a), 6 x random other SS1s.
Previous: SE5, 3 x SE5a, 2 x SE6a, 3 x SE6b, GTC, 2.9i GTC, 3 x 1600 SS1, 1300 SS1, Mk1 Ti Sabre, Mk1.5 CVH Sabre
Chief mechanic for: 1400 K series SS1 (Megan3), 1400 CVH EFi SS1 (Grawpy), Sabre/MX5 auto (The Flying Broomstick),
1300 SS1 (Number One) & Sarah's coupe.
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Re: 8 Ball

Post by scimjim » Sun Jan 16, 2011 9:37 pm

In July 2010, we made the trip to the Classic Le Mans event (this is copied from car shows):

some tips for 2012:

1. Do stop to rescue broken down classics – it’s highly amusing to hear the wife of the dejected DB5 owner say “I wish we had a modern car like that".
2. Whilst sat at the only Morgan owner free table in the village of Suze de la Sarthe, with about 50 Morgan's parked in front, as a tow truck passes by – shout "Taxi for Morgan".
3. Do drive into the car park of a very busy open air pub/restaurant with Abba's Dancing Queen playing whilst singing at the top of your voices.
4. Do take a wrong turn and end up on the racetrack after the 24hr race, and then proceed to wave at the marshals as you fly down the Mulsane straight.
5. Ensure you beat the local pub table football team and win a trophy which will be displayed at all future noggins.
6. Don't laugh uncontrollably whilst drinking orange juice - spraying orange liquid over your crotch area just before stopping for lunch in Leseaux isn't cool.
7. Go with your instincts - eg at 10pm, whilst considering the requirement for a jacket to watch a night race - don't assume it'll still be +30 deg at 3am!!
8. Do invite the "only gay in the village" back to the campsite - what could possibly go wrong?

Overall – a brilliant time was had by all, ten Scimitars shared the Club campsite and another 4 were seen over the weekend.

Thanks to Viv & Xavier for doing the leg work and we’re already looking forward to 2012!

I've tried to show some of the more rarely seen cars instead of Ferraris, GT40s & Cobras:

leaving Blighty

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pitstop

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overheating DB5

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campsite - time for a beer!

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we'd had an occasional spluttering under full throttle ( :mrgreen: ) so (knowing that we'd run out of fuel last week :oops: ) I whipped the filter off:

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off to the track :D

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this was on the side of a toolbox and made us chuckle!

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lunch at the Tertre Rouge

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expensive looking ouch :shock:

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the most unlikely car to see on a Club stand at Le Mans!

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Classic starts

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Porsche and chocolate - it had a crowd of women around it all day!!

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georgeous standard looking E

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and not so standard:

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Mazzer:

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M1:

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gas turbine car:

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D type:

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rear of the oldest C type

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just for Craig:

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I stood here drooling for 20 minutes 8)

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even a Crapi got my attention - 2.6 RS dry sumped Cologne with mechanical fuel injection

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Current: SE5 (8Ball), TI SS1 (snotty), 1600 SS1 (G97), 1600 SS1 (C686CCR), 2.5TD SE5a (diesel 5a), 6 x random other SS1s.
Previous: SE5, 3 x SE5a, 2 x SE6a, 3 x SE6b, GTC, 2.9i GTC, 3 x 1600 SS1, 1300 SS1, Mk1 Ti Sabre, Mk1.5 CVH Sabre
Chief mechanic for: 1400 K series SS1 (Megan3), 1400 CVH EFi SS1 (Grawpy), Sabre/MX5 auto (The Flying Broomstick),
1300 SS1 (Number One) & Sarah's coupe.
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Re: 8 Ball

Post by CNHSS1 » Sun Jan 16, 2011 9:50 pm

cheers Jim :wink: :mrgreen:

only just realised the cars called 8Ball, always assumed it was Oddball, a hint at the mindset required to be a scim owner


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Re: 8 Ball

Post by scimjim » Sun Jan 16, 2011 9:57 pm

the intermittent loss of power was eventually traced to a collapsing fuel line - due to a bodge job from the tank to nylon pipe with non-fuel spec pipe :roll:

Curborough 2010 (straight after Le Mans) was brilliant as usual and 8 Ball performed fine (accompanied by Rat Rod):
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however, the gearbox linkage was becoming slack and there was a bit of main bearing rumble - and neither were going to get any better on their own :wink:

so we decided to take the plunge and remove the engine and box - this would allow us to clean and paint the engine bay as well as plumb in the heater which hasn't been connected since we've had the car.

Eventually we had a spare couple of hours today - the engine hoist, engine stand, ramps and tool box were all taken to Richies house - he has a dry car port :)

battery disconnected:

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electrically disconnect alternator, starter, distributor and water temp sender.

bonnet removed:

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dizzy cap and leads removed:

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spare wheel tray and top radiator pipes (lower one is removed at the water pump end):

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suspension strut:

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alternator complete with mount:

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fuel pump:

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oil pipe (we have a long adaptor that makes removal very easy):

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throttle and choke cables:

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gearstick:

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then from underneath, exhaust downpipes, speedo cable, reverse/overdrive switch, gearbox mount and crossmember and engine mounts, et voila:

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Current: SE5 (8Ball), TI SS1 (snotty), 1600 SS1 (G97), 1600 SS1 (C686CCR), 2.5TD SE5a (diesel 5a), 6 x random other SS1s.
Previous: SE5, 3 x SE5a, 2 x SE6a, 3 x SE6b, GTC, 2.9i GTC, 3 x 1600 SS1, 1300 SS1, Mk1 Ti Sabre, Mk1.5 CVH Sabre
Chief mechanic for: 1400 K series SS1 (Megan3), 1400 CVH EFi SS1 (Grawpy), Sabre/MX5 auto (The Flying Broomstick),
1300 SS1 (Number One) & Sarah's coupe.
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Re: 8 Ball

Post by scimjim » Sun Jan 16, 2011 9:59 pm

CNHSS1 wrote:cheers Jim :wink: :mrgreen:

only just realised the cars called 8Ball, always assumed it was Oddball, a hint at the mindset required to be a scim owner
:mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:


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Current: SE5 (8Ball), TI SS1 (snotty), 1600 SS1 (G97), 1600 SS1 (C686CCR), 2.5TD SE5a (diesel 5a), 6 x random other SS1s.
Previous: SE5, 3 x SE5a, 2 x SE6a, 3 x SE6b, GTC, 2.9i GTC, 3 x 1600 SS1, 1300 SS1, Mk1 Ti Sabre, Mk1.5 CVH Sabre
Chief mechanic for: 1400 K series SS1 (Megan3), 1400 CVH EFi SS1 (Grawpy), Sabre/MX5 auto (The Flying Broomstick),
1300 SS1 (Number One) & Sarah's coupe.
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Re: 8 Ball

Post by scimjim » Sun Jan 16, 2011 10:43 pm

a quick look at the gearbox linkage showed why it was getting increasingly difficult to select gears:

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I think the rubber bushes must have dropped out - one rose jointed mod coming up 8)


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Current: SE5 (8Ball), TI SS1 (snotty), 1600 SS1 (G97), 1600 SS1 (C686CCR), 2.5TD SE5a (diesel 5a), 6 x random other SS1s.
Previous: SE5, 3 x SE5a, 2 x SE6a, 3 x SE6b, GTC, 2.9i GTC, 3 x 1600 SS1, 1300 SS1, Mk1 Ti Sabre, Mk1.5 CVH Sabre
Chief mechanic for: 1400 K series SS1 (Megan3), 1400 CVH EFi SS1 (Grawpy), Sabre/MX5 auto (The Flying Broomstick),
1300 SS1 (Number One) & Sarah's coupe.
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Re: 8 Ball

Post by franko14 » Mon Jan 17, 2011 8:32 am

some great pictures.


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Re: 8 Ball

Post by piman » Mon Jan 17, 2011 2:12 pm

Hello Jim,

I have just read this thread and noticed an earlier post,

"it’s highly amusing to hear the wife of the dejected DB5 owner say “I wish we had a modern car like that"."

Having owned and run a DB5 as a daily driver for many years, and on recently buying a SE 6A, I was struck in how similar the two cars are.

Steel framed with a non structural body.
Virtual identical rear axle layout (same axle), except the Aston has adjustable lever arm dampers.
Similar front suspension layout with rack and pinion steering.
6 cylinder engine.
Very similar driving position.
Both are occasional 4 seaters.
Electric windows.

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Re: 8 Ball

Post by scimjim » Sat Mar 05, 2011 9:28 pm

spent the last couple of weeks cleaning parts at every opportunity (which isn't much when I've been finishing at 7pm every night). The engine and box were painted with green "old type" hammerite under the oil and dirt:
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cleaned up and primed:
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Current: SE5 (8Ball), TI SS1 (snotty), 1600 SS1 (G97), 1600 SS1 (C686CCR), 2.5TD SE5a (diesel 5a), 6 x random other SS1s.
Previous: SE5, 3 x SE5a, 2 x SE6a, 3 x SE6b, GTC, 2.9i GTC, 3 x 1600 SS1, 1300 SS1, Mk1 Ti Sabre, Mk1.5 CVH Sabre
Chief mechanic for: 1400 K series SS1 (Megan3), 1400 CVH EFi SS1 (Grawpy), Sabre/MX5 auto (The Flying Broomstick),
1300 SS1 (Number One) & Sarah's coupe.
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Re: 8 Ball

Post by scimjim » Sat Mar 05, 2011 9:36 pm

Steve saved me some time by bead blasting the sump, front cover & rocker box covers at work:
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but the pistons are still soaking:
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we have tubular manifolds and a steel timing gear to fit and have recently received the new piston rings, main & big end bearings, thrust washers, gaskets & core plugs (how can such a small parcel cost so much :shock: ), I'm just waiting for the cam to be turned into a Kent V63 and come back with springs & followers.


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Current: SE5 (8Ball), TI SS1 (snotty), 1600 SS1 (G97), 1600 SS1 (C686CCR), 2.5TD SE5a (diesel 5a), 6 x random other SS1s.
Previous: SE5, 3 x SE5a, 2 x SE6a, 3 x SE6b, GTC, 2.9i GTC, 3 x 1600 SS1, 1300 SS1, Mk1 Ti Sabre, Mk1.5 CVH Sabre
Chief mechanic for: 1400 K series SS1 (Megan3), 1400 CVH EFi SS1 (Grawpy), Sabre/MX5 auto (The Flying Broomstick),
1300 SS1 (Number One) & Sarah's coupe.
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Re: 8 Ball

Post by mattm » Sun Mar 20, 2011 11:08 pm

Interesting thread Jim, looking forward to seeing the rest of the progress!


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Re: 8 Ball

Post by scimjim » Mon Mar 21, 2011 9:14 am

Cheers - not much more done recently due to family problems but everythings ready to be re-assembled now. Just a little porting required to let it breathe a bit better.


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Current: SE5 (8Ball), TI SS1 (snotty), 1600 SS1 (G97), 1600 SS1 (C686CCR), 2.5TD SE5a (diesel 5a), 6 x random other SS1s.
Previous: SE5, 3 x SE5a, 2 x SE6a, 3 x SE6b, GTC, 2.9i GTC, 3 x 1600 SS1, 1300 SS1, Mk1 Ti Sabre, Mk1.5 CVH Sabre
Chief mechanic for: 1400 K series SS1 (Megan3), 1400 CVH EFi SS1 (Grawpy), Sabre/MX5 auto (The Flying Broomstick),
1300 SS1 (Number One) & Sarah's coupe.
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Re: 8 Ball

Post by mattm » Sat Jul 09, 2011 1:31 pm

Hi Jim. Hows the progress going?

How did you remove the gudgeon pins from the pistons? The manual says to heat the small end and then press them out but I don't have a press and I was wondering if there is another way?


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Re: 8 Ball

Post by scimjim » Sat Jul 09, 2011 3:18 pm

slowly re-assembling, I didn't need to take the little ends apart, just new rings & shells. I'm moving house so it has to be back together by Friday, so I'm doing odd bits as and when.
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but being disturbed by a Vulcan bomber overhead at the moment :-)


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Current: SE5 (8Ball), TI SS1 (snotty), 1600 SS1 (G97), 1600 SS1 (C686CCR), 2.5TD SE5a (diesel 5a), 6 x random other SS1s.
Previous: SE5, 3 x SE5a, 2 x SE6a, 3 x SE6b, GTC, 2.9i GTC, 3 x 1600 SS1, 1300 SS1, Mk1 Ti Sabre, Mk1.5 CVH Sabre
Chief mechanic for: 1400 K series SS1 (Megan3), 1400 CVH EFi SS1 (Grawpy), Sabre/MX5 auto (The Flying Broomstick),
1300 SS1 (Number One) & Sarah's coupe.
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Re: 8 Ball

Post by demonbluedays » Sat Jul 09, 2011 3:22 pm

I knew Spock wasnt so emotionless!


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