1987 SS1 Ti Ride height adjustments

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Re: 1987 SS1 Ti

Post by scimjim » Tue Jan 18, 2011 7:25 pm

I agree with Roger on the boot stay - I also think you need to fabricate a new captive plate for the boot lock or it will come adrift and jump open at a most inconvenient time :?


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Re: 1987 SS1 Ti

Post by swoakes » Tue Jan 18, 2011 7:53 pm

Hi Roger,

Yes just a big gaping hole in the plate with no sign of any threads. The plate makes a surprisingly secure fixing; I drilled a very small hole in the liner so that the screws would bite really hard. It might not last another 24 years but I think it may last longer than you might expect.

As regards the lock; the plate is quite complex in shape as the lock effectively has to fit through it hence my reasons for an easier fix. Any other suggestions?

Yes please with the headlights; I hoped it might not be too bad as the previous owner had said thaey were working up to a short time ago and that new motors had been fitted. :D

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Re: 1987 SS1 Ti

Post by Roger Pennington » Tue Jan 18, 2011 8:26 pm

swoakes wrote:Yes just a big gaping hole in the plate with no sign of any threads.
Plate? what plate? :?

We may be at cross purposes, but the stay attachment just passes straight through a hole in the boot liner and into a nut welded onto the armature itself. There isn't any separate plate involved (unless you're referring to the armature?)

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Re: 1987 SS1 Ti

Post by swoakes » Tue Jan 18, 2011 8:35 pm

Yes Roger I mean the armature. What is the armature and is the nut welded to the inside (ie the boot liner side) or the outside (ie the rear wing side) of the armature? Steve


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Re: 1987 SS1 Ti

Post by reliant-reviver » Tue Jan 18, 2011 8:46 pm

Armature is the term that somehow got applied to the boot frame by god knows who, anyway it stuck and there you go. The boot lid gas struts are cliped onto the dome studs which are screwed into a pair of 13mm nuts tack welded to the armature.
The captive plate within the boot lid should have 3 M6 hank bushes pressed into it, but it sounds like they have broken free on your car. I can probably come up with a spare if needed?


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Re: 1987 SS1 Ti

Post by Roger Pennington » Tue Jan 18, 2011 8:46 pm

swoakes wrote:Yes Roger I mean the armature. What is the armature and is the nut welded to the inside (ie the boot liner side) or the outside (ie the rear wing side) of the armature? Steve
It's the subframe that supports the rear wings, stood on top of the chassis, made of C-section ungalvanised :( steel. The captive nut is welded to the boot liner side, standing proud like a boss, not inside the armature. As I have my boot liner out at the moment to fix the indicators, I could take a photo.

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Re: 1987 SS1 Ti

Post by swoakes » Tue Jan 18, 2011 9:05 pm

Thanks Roger; no need for a photo I understand now.

Phil If you have a spare plate for the boot lock I will take it off your hands. I sent you a PM about the parts I need yesterday.

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Re: 1987 SS1 Ti

Post by swoakes » Wed Jan 19, 2011 6:14 pm

Not done much on the car today but have made a plate for the boot lock. The plate holds 2 captive nuts for the 2 lower bolts only and has a cut out for the lock to slide through.

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I'll prime and paint it tomorrow before fitting. The top hole is still OK via what's left of the original plate.

Another little job I have been trying to sort is the boot light. If I connect a voltmeter to the red and black wires I get a readout of between 9 + 12 volts. Probably dirty contacts on switch which I need to remove to clean (screw seized :cry: ) The bulb holder is a little rusty but cannot get a bulb held against exposed wires to come on when voltage is showing 12v (and yes I have checked the bulb :wink: ). With my basic wiring knowledge can't understand this as the bulb would light dimly even with 9v wouldn't it?

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Re: 1987 SS1 Ti

Post by td99 » Wed Jan 19, 2011 9:23 pm

Do you still have 9V when the wires are connected to the bulb? Probably not.


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Re: 1987 SS1 Ti

Post by scimjim » Wed Jan 19, 2011 10:54 pm

try it with a seperate earth wire direct to the battery.


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Re: 1987 SS1 Ti

Post by swoakes » Wed Jan 19, 2011 10:59 pm

Do you still have 9V when the wires are connected to the bulb? Probably not.
Just to be clear I tested the bulb outside of the bulb holder with clips directly to the local earth connection and the other to the end of the red wire. I will try and earth directly to the battery to see if that helps but if I have at least 9v on the meter can't see why am not getting the lamp to light at least dimly. Steve


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Re: 1987 SS1 Ti

Post by Roger Pennington » Wed Jan 19, 2011 11:34 pm

As a side issue perhaps, if the supply wire is red, all the wiring diagrams I can find show it as purple. Not a major point perhaps, but if there's been some rewiring going on in the past it might be worth checking to see if there's a dodgy join further back in the wire.

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Re: 1987 SS1 Ti

Post by swoakes » Wed Jan 19, 2011 11:53 pm

Hi Roger,

Very possible given the state of the wiring in the engine bay :cry: BUT still does not explain why I can get 12v on a meter across the cables but nothing on a healthy bulb :?:

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Re: 1987 SS1 Ti

Post by Roger Pennington » Thu Jan 20, 2011 12:04 am

My knowledge of electrickery is flimsy to say the least, but I think the answer has something to do with it being possible to measure an apparent 12v (especially with a digital meter) but that the volts don't have any real substance to them, and dwindle away when asked to do real work.

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Re: 1987 SS1 Ti

Post by swoakes » Thu Jan 20, 2011 6:07 pm

I think you are right Roger and Jim as an earth directly from the battery brings the bulb to life. If/ when I remove the boot tub to do the boot stay "properly" I will sort the earth out then.

Some good progress today.

The plate for the boot lock worked and all is now fully operational :D

The rear view mirror is now stuck to the screen as it should be and not screwed to the hard top :D

The drivers side quarter light has been removed along with the door lift mechanism and motor. What a pain that job is; the lift mechanism is all 1 piece so it had to have gone in but I could not coax it out. I ended up enlarging the slot at the top of the door slightly to get everything out :x The car will only be used in the dry so I may run it without and windows for a while unless some quarter lights turn up. When the cards are refitted I may rig up some covers for the door tops; I think it will look good without the glass.

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