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1965 Sabre Six

Post by Corky » Thu Apr 08, 2010 5:13 pm

Some of you will have seen my posts in other areas of the forum regarding my recent purchase of a 1965 Sabre Six. The car hasn't turned a wheel in 15 years and was last MOT'd in 1981. It was 50% dismantled with the car and most of the parts being stored outside under tarpaulins. The Welsh weather hasn't done quite as much damage as would be expected, but this is still quite a daunting project. I think every nut and bolt will have to be undone and replaced at some point during the project.

This could be and epic.......wish me luck ! :cry:


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Re: 1965 Sabre Six (nut and bolt restoration)

Post by Ian » Thu Apr 08, 2010 5:24 pm

You're a braver man than I am, Gunga Din! :lol:


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Re: 1965 Sabre Six (nut and bolt restoration)

Post by scimjim » Thu Apr 08, 2010 5:39 pm

madder than a kettle full of fish :mrgreen:

It's a good job we have madmen like you around - can't wait to see it progress :D


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Re: 1965 Sabre Six (nut and bolt restoration)

Post by ScimitarMatt » Thu Apr 08, 2010 5:47 pm

I reckon it'll be ready by the next noggin, if not, then certainly for Tatton Park in August :lol:

Well done Steve for being brave, we'll look forward to following your progress and maybe even lending a hand once in a while, a noggin resto could be amusing :?

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Re: 1965 Sabre Six (nut and bolt restoration)

Post by Roger Pennington » Thu Apr 08, 2010 5:53 pm

Yes, best of luck, and well done for rescuing it. I look forward to hearing more :D

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Re: 1965 Sabre Six (nut and bolt restoration)

Post by Elizabeth's dad » Thu Apr 08, 2010 6:02 pm

Well done and best of luck. If you find a another one, let me know!


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Re: 1965 Sabre Six (nut and bolt restoration)

Post by franko14 » Fri Apr 09, 2010 11:32 am

OMG..WOW!! :shock: :shock: you're brave, i wish you well and look forward to seeing the project.


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Re: 1965 Sabre Six (nut and bolt restoration)

Post by Taggers » Fri Apr 09, 2010 1:15 pm

I love it, love it, LOVE IT!

The bottom half of the engine doesn't look so bad this time round, maybe you can find a new head?

The more I look at it the more I think, "Sure it's bad, but it's not THAT bad!"

The frame looks ok. The engine's just nuts and bolts. The body is a, most would say, specialist job, but it's not bust or sporting dodgy mods, and after the GTC you ARE a specialist.

Hardest job is going to be getting it to bits without damaging anything precious, keeping it complete while it's in bits, and keeping the momentum up. Oh and paying for the respray.

I'd get it stripped as quickly as possible, get the body soda blasted and the frame dipped, welded (BTW, it looks bloody good) and galvanised, get them back together and then you've just got a big old meccano set to assemble. The engine will sort it's self out over time and Ebay.

Can you imagine doing the same job on an Etype or an Elan, though! We are quite blessed with these cars.


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Re: 1965 Sabre Six (nut and bolt restoration)

Post by Corky » Fri Apr 09, 2010 6:22 pm

Thanks for the support guys. I think this is most definately do-able. I'm still sorting through boxes, but I'm sure I've got 99% of the original parts.

First job is to strip the chassis, sort any problems, paint or galv' it and rebuild the suspension (I think there's probably 3 months work there, at my pace).

I think I'll be painting the body myself, as by my reckoning I can have about 10 goes at it for the price of a professional job . That's a long way off though !
(should I be buying the cellulose paint now, will it last 2yrs ?)

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Re: 1965 Sabre Six (nut and bolt restoration)

Post by Gelcoat » Fri Apr 09, 2010 7:35 pm

Very brave indeed ,best of luck with that
cool shape ,will bw watching the project develop :D


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Re: 1965 Sabre Six (nut and bolt restoration)

Post by demonbluedays » Sun Apr 11, 2010 9:31 pm

looking at it the paintwork and spiderwebbed interior i think make the body itself look worse than it is, so a good weekend or two cleaning that out should have it looking okish if not "needs a proper going over with some rejuvenator" As for the engine, is it me or are the cylinders a tad scored? :?

cant wait for this one to get back on the road certainly looks a good 'un as it is! :D


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Re: 1965 Sabre Six (nut and bolt restoration)

Post by dcrobertson68 » Sun Apr 11, 2010 9:42 pm

Brave man, good luck, at least that back wheel appears to have made at least half a turn. How many of these were made/are left?


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Re: 1965 Sabre Six (nut and bolt restoration)

Post by philhoward » Sun Apr 11, 2010 10:35 pm

Sorry I didn't get to have a chat yesterday, Steve - but good luck! See it at Curborough? 2010, I mean!


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Re: 1965 Sabre Six (nut and bolt restoration)

Post by Corky » Mon Apr 12, 2010 10:59 am

Hi Phil, no problem. The hour after the AGM went pretty quickly (Jim found a GTC in GW's workshop, so we had to check it out) and I had to shoot off at 4pm anyway to pick the family up from Chester.

I can be absolutely certain of one thing though, the Sabre won't be at Curbs 2010, but you never know about 2011. Deals were done in the car park on Saturday which may see the car hit the road sooner than the 18-24 months I'd predicted. Here's hoping with everything crossed !

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Re: 1965 Sabre Six (nut and bolt restoration)

Post by Corky » Wed Apr 14, 2010 2:36 pm

I finally got to to fully inspect my purchase today and unfortunately it's not all good news.

Good News !

I have all the parts, from interior to engine everything seems to be there. Right down to HT leads, distributor & cap, water pump pulley etc. All of the original front suspension (late TR4) is present.
The body is pretty damn straight, and once the rest of the paint has fallen off, it shouldn't be too difficult getting it nicely painted
It's nice and original, no one has done any silly mods. Everything on the dash is there along with all the associated wiring.
The front half of the chassis should clean up well and won't need any other work apart from cosmetics.

Bad News !

The rear of chassis needs some serious work. The final crossmember near the fuel tank is totally rotten and littlerally crumbled in my hands.
The NSR brake drum is totally siezed and I can't get it off, so moving the car around is pretty tricky at present.
I can't open either of the doors, it would appear that the lock mechanisms are jammed. It'll need the door cards taking off and some fettling from the inside to sort it out.

I'm convinced I can do most of this, but I'm starting to worry I may have bitten off more than I can chew regarding the rear chassis. I haven't done any proper welding before, so if proceed with this :?: I'll have to contract this bit out. :!:

My brain hurts.......... :(

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