Se6a Rolling Resto.

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Post by Johniewalshe » Sat Mar 23, 2019 6:07 pm

So it's about time I started a thread for my "trusty white steed" as it's been in my possession for over a year!
My interested in Scimitars started over 20 years ago when sat on the back of my dads tractor I seen a rather well used brown se5a come up the road behind us. Seeing a Scimitar on a rural back road in west of Ireland was a rare sight and with half of the SCIMITAR letters missing I was at a loss as to what it was. I remember it looked cool and sounded even better.

Fast forward a number of years and while shopping for a stove for our house I contacted a local stove supplier, while crossing his yard I spotted the same SCIMITAR letters I had seen years before. Stove was soon forgotten as he showed me around his collection of scimitars. He had a number of se5s and one se6a. With no stove bought and an hour spent discussing cars I headed off. Then January 2018 I phone call came to say that the se6a was for sale and was mine if I wanted it. And so the rolling resto began!

The car in question is an early se6a auto, se6 type front bumper. It was painted back in 2010, parked in his garage and hadn't more since. My first observations- external trims removed, door cards removed, perished window rubbers, hadnt ran in 8 years, pool of atf under the gearbox and a rusted window frame.

I'll attempt to update the progress up to now and continue to detail work.
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Post by Johniewalshe » Sat Mar 23, 2019 11:20 pm

Feb 2018
I pulled the plugs and poured some wd-40 down each of the bores and left it sit for a week.
Fresh set of plugs fitted. Removed and cleaned fuel gauze at pump and carb. Quick clean and adjust of the points. New battery fitted. Turned over a couple of times and she ran, Smokey as hell after the wd-40 but she ran. Water pump was siezed so that was the first of many many parts to be ordered!
Study under the gearbox I found the source of the leak to be selector seal, a relief as I had initially thought it was the front seals.
First order to QRG
Water pump,
Ford C3 Selector Seals
Ford C3 filter
Ford C3 sump gasket
Drop window seals
Stainless strip for doors
Door seals
All body badges.

Week later, fitted the water pump, topped up coolant, gear box oil. Freed up all wheels started it up and began the maiden voyage. Quick trip up and down the road and all seamed good, except for a terrible smell, later turned out to be some rubber stuffed between classic and exhaust.
Loaded up onto car transporter and sent her off to local mechanic.
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Post by MikeT » Sun Mar 24, 2019 7:29 pm

The paint looks good from here - looks a nice project :)

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Post by Johniewalshe » Mon Mar 25, 2019 12:35 am

MikeT wrote:
Sun Mar 24, 2019 7:29 pm
The paint looks good from here - looks a nice project :)

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Thanks, paint is "good" no cracks or crazing.
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Post by Johniewalshe » Mon Mar 25, 2019 9:50 pm

March 2018
Now that I can get a good look underneath and around the car I can make a list for my mechanic and a shopping list for me. Front bolt on the thermostat housing has the threads exposed where the inlet manifold as disintergrated, lucky the PO left one in the back for me. There is a se6 to se5 hybrid cooling system. Otter switch is missing with hole blanked off worried about the going system now that I've seen that.
Chassis is solid with quite a bit of surface rust. So a wire brush and chassis paint are first on his list! Also think it best to lower the fuel tank and check if it's sound. Exhaust is not in great shape. Tubular manifold on the right and a cast one with a leaky down pipe on the left. Fuel pipe and brake pipes look good.
So the shopping list looks like this.

Rocker cover gaskets qty2

Carb base gaskets qty2

Diff pinion oil seal rubber type

Fuel pump blanking plate and gasket, I am going to fit eletronic fuel pump

Door aperture seal, original missing

Weather strip qty4 inner and out door weather strips are rotten

Exhaust man gaskets qty6 

Exhaust O ring qty4

Exhaust rear mounts

Fuel tank strap insulation

Fuel tank insulation on top

Lockheed caliper service kit qty2

Std brake pads

Rear brake adjuster qty2

Rear wheel cylinder qty2 

shoe Spring kit

lever gaiter qty2

Shoe set

C3 selector seals

C3 Sump gasket

C3 filter

SCIMITAR letters

GTE letters

Shield bagde

Inlet man gasket

Thermostat and gasket

Alt and PAS belts.

Set of rubber heater hoses.
All above from QRG.
Then via here and face book I got
Door frame, tex style mirrors, window motors and regs, a se6 rad with third hose tail to convert to se5 cooling, se5 expansion tank.
Set of halogen with clear glass to replace sealed beam units

(I wasn't planning on spending that much!)

So once that arrived I got my mechanic martin to service all brakes using new parts, change over inlet manifold, fit selector seals, filter and sump gasket

I popped in when I could to fit door frame, door trims, wing mirrors and weather strips to the door. Took great joy fitting SCIMITAR letters and badge. Fitter new head lights and sorted wiring to get everything working.
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Post by scimjim » Mon Mar 25, 2019 9:57 pm

Looks good - the only thing I’d add is to replace all rubber fuel lines with ethanol proof stuff.


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Post by Johniewalshe » Mon Mar 25, 2019 11:33 pm

You are dead right thanks, espically as part of the return line is garden hose. :shock:
I am writing this post retrospectively so fuel line change was one of the next jobs on the list.

Once the fuel tank was dropped I got a phone call from my mechanic describing the fuel tank as more of a fuel bath rather than a tank as the top sheet had completely rusted away! Luckily enough I had just taken delivery of a stainless steel tank, so that was fitted.

I also had a red top fuel pump fitted at the tank, with a fuel pressure regulator/filter on the engine bay. At this stage all fuel hoses were replaced with new ethanol proof hoses. Mech pump removed and blanked.

The topic of fuel will come up later in this post. The pump is ran, for now in till I sort an interia switch, by a relay switched by the ignition feed at the ballast resistor.

All through this process, and up to now I have found this site a vast source of knowledge. Well done to all who facilitate and support it.



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Post by AJL Electronics » Tue Mar 26, 2019 9:39 am



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Post by Johniewalshe » Tue Mar 26, 2019 9:20 pm

With the car away with my mechanic I cracked on with some of the shiny bits.
Polish up the spare wheel and painted with chrome paint. It's ok for the spare but seems to be "soft" for actual wheels
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Had a friend polish up the aluminumin nose section, and I painted the letters black,
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Fixed up a number of cracks in the door cards, using fibreglass repair. Was missing the speaker grills, so designed up some stainless laser cut ones
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Post by Roger Pennington » Wed Mar 27, 2019 11:37 am

The speaker grille has worked well. Re the wheel, your spare has certainly made a huge improvement. You're right that bare polished alloy gives the "brightest" effect, though it is more high-maintenance if the car will be used regularly in all weathers.


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Post by Johniewalshe » Fri Apr 05, 2019 9:42 pm

May 2018,

Finally get my first proper drive as I take her home. I opted to bypass centre boxes with straight pipes and it sounds fantastic!

First job is to replace all cooling pipes with new ones fit modified radiator and electric fan.
I got a second hand rad of motor hog, it had the extra pipe as per the se5 cooling. Fitted a se5 expansion tank and plumbed all as per the se5 cooling

I don't like the idea of the otter switch held with a grommet and clip. So I brazed on a m22 Bush and fitted a m22 temp switch.
Fitted electric fan, relay controlled by new temp switch. Mounted a override switch under the dash "just in case" and an indicator light so I can monitor fan activity.
Old hose clips were well past it a crumbled off.
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Post by Johniewalshe » Sun May 12, 2019 4:28 pm

As part of the fitting of new water pipes I removed the remains of a botched header tank upgrade!
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Post by Johniewalshe » Sun May 12, 2019 4:35 pm

After some poor running I realised I had rust particles in my fuel line. New filters for pump and filter king regulator. Gave the carb a full rebuild with a kit from QRG.

Also changed all service items of the ignition system, leads, cap, rotor, points and coil. The later turned out to be duff, leading me down a spiral or checking and checking fuel filters, refitting manual pump, and regular re setting of points gap! Swaped back old coil and she was flying it!
I even managed to appear at a local show
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Post by Old and Slow » Mon May 13, 2019 1:49 pm

Congratulations on making good progress.
Hope it continues to run well.


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Post by Johniewalshe » Thu May 16, 2019 10:19 pm

July 2018
Starting to use the scimitar on a more daily basis, having taking it to work a few times a week and made a 200 mile round trip to a show in Dublin.

Whan to tidy up a few bits. The Mountney steering wheel was split and looking in bad shape. Got another one in better condition which I glued and filled the cracks and gave coat of varnish. Much better.

The auto selector waved around where the bushings were worn. QRG didn't have any stock so I thought it might be a got for the lathe. However with some Google image searches I found ones for a mustang that looked the same so I ordered a set. Fitted perfect. Felt so must better now that the selector sat where it should. Link here if anyone needs some

https://mustangmaniac.co.uk/part/0/4030 ... ft_bushing

Also gave the selector surround a refreshing up. Used an old bicycle tube to make a new rubber cover, glued in place with puncture repair solution!

Other small but satisfying job was to fix the light under the bonnet, another job off the list
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