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Post by CarlosVanDango » Mon Jan 21, 2019 9:40 pm

Hi, thought i'd start a thread on my new Scimitar, i enjoy reading others threads so hopefully you'll enjoy mine, also i have a terrible memory so this will be useful for me to look back on :lol:

i bought my car off this very forum from a very nice chap Mike(mikesu) as it was a 500 mile round trip away it was rather difficult to view, so after a phone call and he'd emailed me some more photos i took a punt and put a deposit down. I'd not even looked at any others in fact i'd only had the idea of buying one a few days earlier and i can't even remember the last time i saw one one the road. I've always wanted a Scimitar since as a kid i had a 1980 car spotters book where it said the Reliant Scimitar was capable of 190kph wow :lol: i did always fancy a SE6 but looking at pictures of them together i decided the SE5/5A was much prettier so i went for one of those instead

This is my car
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unfortunately it comes with a few problems, the main one being the timing gear has stripped on the engine and as such it's a non runner. Generally it needs bit of tidying up especially the interior but all in all it's in a good useable state -perfect for me and was a very honest description from Mike.

this is was on the way back - a quick stop at maccys (didn't risk the drive through)
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My long term plan is to use it as a daily driver, but 1st get it running then see how i get on with the V6 and potentially fit a different more modern engine, i'd also like to fit some different wheels and sort the body work and interior out, repaint it, lower it a bit and some power steering

thats enough for now :)
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Post by MikeyBikey » Mon Jan 21, 2019 9:53 pm

Great stuff. Strip the engine and look to see what's damaged. I 've stripped and rebuilt the Essex lots. It's a great engine and very easy to work on. I'm also doing an engine conversion on my 5a. Its straight forward but still a fair amount of work. If i was you i would repair / keep the essex in situ for a while and enjoy the car.


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Post by jacobohara » Mon Jan 21, 2019 10:25 pm

Hello! Looks like a great base to start with! curious to see what you do regarding lowering and different wheels!


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Post by MikeyBikey » Tue Jan 22, 2019 6:47 am

Lowering is well explained within this site however changing the geometry is an easy but unwanted side effect and better avoided if possible. I use pcd adaptors and now run 16" mgzr hairpin with 205 55 16 which fill the arch lovely.
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Post by willholderogri » Tue Jan 22, 2019 7:48 am

looks tidy get yourself a metal timing gear and it may need a couple of valves depending on how fast it was going before the gear failed. (been there and bought the T shirt)


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Post by reliant-reviver » Tue Jan 22, 2019 10:52 am

Hello and welcome from not so far away!
Hopefully not too much damage to the engine internals. At this point I would offer you an alloy timing gear kit, but I have none left and importing another batch has fallen by the wayside.


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Post by roymck » Tue Jan 22, 2019 12:56 pm

I just bought my Timing gear from QRG in alloy , I looked around to see what was available . Ric Wood only does alloy he says the steel version can break the cam shaft so won’t use that anymore .
Why has importing another batch fallen by the wayside Philip?



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Post by reliant-reviver » Tue Jan 22, 2019 9:37 pm

Arrival of second child and trying to keep up with business in short. I shall arrange another but for the mean time they are as you say available and it is good to support the Scimitar traders.


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Post by Johniewalshe » Wed Jan 23, 2019 12:45 am

Hi, would you have any indication of when another batch of timing gears would be available as I am interested. Thanks john



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Post by CarlosVanDango » Fri Jan 25, 2019 9:03 pm

time to make start on the engine i was going to do it outside my house this weekend but the weather forecast isn't good so i dragged it up to my mums and evicted her car from her garage - she doesn't know yet so i will have to take my earplugs when i go round tomorrow :lol:

my original plan was to take the rocker arms off and do a compression test to see if any of the valves had bent, but we couldn't decide with the inlet valve shut if it would give a meaningful reading. so i thought i might as well just fit a new gear and see how/if it runs
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i got a bit further than this but my battery died - i can say it is definitely the timing gear that has stripped causing the problem

back on it tomorrow - fingers crossed



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Post by scimjim » Fri Jan 25, 2019 10:02 pm

I would be very surprised if it hasn’t bent some valves - and running it with bent valves could just cause more damage?


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Post by CarlosVanDango » Fri Jan 25, 2019 10:11 pm

if it has i'll find out when i do a compression test - i'm hoping just bent pushrods
ive read a few accounts of when the timing gears gone on people and it's a mix of none to serious damage
Mike says it wasn't going flat out when it went so i'm hoping for the best

if the engine is badly damaged i probably will swap it out for a different engine - it's not the cars original one anyway



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Post by efi_sprintgte » Fri Jan 25, 2019 10:13 pm

Agreed, I would at the very least pull the heads off.


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Post by BigBobPilot » Fri Jan 25, 2019 11:16 pm

You should be able to see a bent valve easily, as the valve will stick. You'll either have a valve stuck open with the rocker loose and pushed to one side or if you've taken the rockers off, still slightly open. The push rods don't necessarily bend, the rocker can be pushed to one side or the rocker post pulled out the head, as they are only a press fit (compeition heads pin these or replace them with threaded posts).

If none are stuck & you fit a new timing gear, but don't just try starting it, turn it over by hand with a 5/8" socket on the crank pulley bolt. Again any bent valves will stick if they sre bent. If you can't see it, you'd feel it as added resistance, as long as you pull all the spark plugs out so your not winding against the compression.


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Post by roymck » Sat Jan 26, 2019 9:51 am

If you have to take heads off and have the funds then it’s a good opportunity to fit a Sports cam and new followers , and fit new oil pump drive as well .



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