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Post by demonbluedays » Thu Sep 20, 2018 9:00 am

Not much to report as an update apart from two jobs on top to do whilst my bus is broken and I'm awaiting the engineers

Overdrive seal to be swapped over

Mightys front toe needs realignment, but with weather conditions less than perfect for the next week it may be a bit longer before we have something more susbstantial to report. On a good note the ignition warning light problem is now still gone after I played with the fuses again... just that electric Ariel needs to drop when the radio goes off now....like I said before it went up fine just didn't come back down. Anyone got any clues as to what's preventing it's coming back the way it went?


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Post by demonbluedays » Mon Oct 01, 2018 2:20 am

As the change of title implies, the progress has moved on a bit lately,

LED upgrade needs reverse lights to finish, Terry...anyone, if you could provide a link so I can buy some that would be most helpful!

11 months after the window opened, workers and management have f***ing FINALLY agreed on a pay deal meaning there's a fair few quid coming soon for the kitty, which does mean that I'm very soon to be "on my own" as it were, even though Terry has said if I need any help or tools I know where to go, which beleive me, I'm eternally greatful for even though I haven't said it yet in person!

Anyway, let's get a quick summary of my last two sessions with Mighty sorted and logged:

Mighty flat out refused to start without a refill of the electrical variety from Terrys gorgeous Rover, battery had gone flat in the couple of weeks I'd been unable to get over, but once up and running we left her run for quite a while to charge the battery.

Tracking is now sorted, Terry showed me how to do this using a damn clever toy called TrackRite by Gunson, although Mighty did try to break it by running the needle off its track as the Toe was out beyond 2.5 degrees :roll:

A short trip up onto ramps later and she's set at 0 on both sides according to what was used.

While under there Terry found out why Overdrive was popping in and out like crazy. (Should note although I have driven Mighty, I've not been up to speeds in her as yet to need overdrive). I noted that while out of the garage and on clean tarmac there was no evidence of drips coming out, so Terry suggested if it can be seen from the height we had he will have a look, then it was discovered:

When the car was in Cwmbran to have the clutch sorted some time ago, the spade connector must have been accidentally broken off by mechanic working in said area....their soloution to this? Wrapping the copper wire AROUND the terminal......

To say the least we were both amazed as we suspected the seal may have been the culprit....so that's a job that Terry has said he's going to undertake this week coming whilst I'm stuck behind the wheel of a brick with seats (but if decide you want to leave it with me...totally fine with that)

Time ran short so beyond me having a quick fiddle around here and there looking at odds and ends nothing much else was really touched, reversed Mighty back into place and left until today..


Where Mighty jammed a proverbial finger up again as the battery was once again drained. The battery itself isn't that old, and remember the first time I saw her and nodded like a nutcase to taking her on, she started first time after a few months of slumber no problem at all, the bonnet light is removed breaking that circuit path and we are always mindful of shutting any doors or the glass hatch so the interior lights don't remain on. The difference between now and then is the electric Arial is fully extended and won't budge back down, which is an aftermarket one as you can still see the original ring where the old rubber used to be as it's larger than what's now fitted, that and I've had a few jumps at Pink Floyd coming on unexpectedly. Suspected cause of this is thay Arial possibly still drawing power even though we can't feel or hear that motor running at all when it's turned on or off, although I am intending to get it retracted and then "Knacker" it by removing the cables that provide power to if as I never really listen to conventional radio anyway only usually CD or music stored on my phone.

Plan for that is to see if it's possible to use an external battery supply to have it drop and then takr any and all wiring away and tape up the ends to prevent any shorts happening.

So unable to pull Mighty out we cut the day pretty short and I brought the history folder back to have a good look through and decided to organise it into my box folder bought especially to keep that in, after sorting it all and filing away I've found a few interesting things:

There's invoices here going back to the early 80s, I think late 82 early 83 was the earliest I've seen so far, was slightly difficult to look properly with Charlie and Teo wanting to help out as they're well on the way to being ScimNuts :lol:

GW takes the prize for most used specialist with QRG not even a close second (filed the invoices by company and not date as a fair few have multiple visits over the years) even have some from Rimmer Bros, Scimitar international, southwest Scimitar, Scimitar services, Wollies, Burton Power, and a fair few from a garage called GB Black & Co over the course of a few owners in Leicester where Mighty spent most of her life so far after being registered in London (yeah I also have a list of previous owners which you can't get anymore, thank you again Terry!)

An immaculate SE6 sales brochure with the white Specification sheet as well!

MOT certificates going back to at least 1990

Genuinely taken by surprise just how much of the cars history I have here at reference all the way up to the washer bottles that were bought recently. It has made me realise how much I did hash up first time around by diving in with only a couple of MOT certificates and nothing else to reference for Link.

Still on the prowl for a decent condition white owners manual though (I forgot to keep my one from Link!) If anyone's got one, would be happy to purchase it so I've got as much of what the car "would have had" literature wise when she was sold new.


Anyway, as this post is getting long, the next job (hopefully with pictures this time) will be the fibreglassing of the bulkhead from the wiper wheel boxes that were done almost a month ago, and then pretty much after that, Mighty will be a full on rolling restoration before Charlie's 8th birthday in November.


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Post by demonbluedays » Fri Oct 05, 2018 12:33 pm

As documented (but putting here so I know what I'm on about in a couple of years time) on another thread we had problems with Mighty starting after being left for any time, after jump starting and leaving to run, removing and charging on a dedicated charger there was still no luck, took battery to Mon and Border in Cwmbran to test and if need be replace.

Testing had barely got underway before the little machine went mental and ended it early, pretty much all the cells (90%) were useless and cranking amps was estimated to be around 60, so new battery bought, fitted and bam, off Mightys engine went. Should also note maybe we should have seen this coming when it took absolutely forever using boost cables and Terrys Rover to have enough charge to start up.

We think the arial may be a relay as I now hear a dull click/tick when the radio shuts off, coming from in line with the warning cluster lights on the dashboard, but as said previously I'm going to get the thing to retract and disconnect it as I don't listen to normal radio anyway, and make a note of what I've done in my paperwork folder if I ever change my mind.

Apart from that Terry will be doing a test run to check the tracking is a ok and then from there we will be fibreglassing up the bulkhead eventually and I beleive pretty much after that all jobs done will be all by me as Terry now has other things to busy himself with :lol: :wink:


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Post by gtcse8 » Fri Oct 05, 2018 8:27 pm

demonbluedays wrote:
Fri Oct 05, 2018 12:33 pm
We think the arial may be a relay as I now hear a dull click/tick when the radio shuts off, coming from in line with the warning cluster lights on the dashboard
The majority of leccy aerials have the reversing switch inside them, they are usually fed from a dedicated Ariel wire from the radio unit iirc.
They should NOT drain the battery if fitted correctly.


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Post by Terry H » Fri Oct 05, 2018 8:38 pm

Yes Mark it was fitted correctly several years ago and always worked perfectly and never gave a problem until now. Will have to explore when I remove the side panel to get at the wiring.
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Post by demonbluedays » Sat Oct 06, 2018 5:31 am

I only considered it suspect as it was the one thing on the car that had changed (got stuck in the up position) from before when the old battery would happily fire the engine into life.


And that was only because I beleive it was me playing about :oops:

Either way so long as the new battery is not being drained and it was just the simple problem of the old one was *utterly* dead then we are a ok


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Post by Coupe Racing » Sat Oct 06, 2018 9:06 am

Have you not carried out a system drain test with a volt meter ?
If there is a draw then remove one fuse at a time until the drain drops.
That locates the circuit
Then disconnect each consumable on that circuit
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Post by AJL Electronics » Sat Oct 06, 2018 9:55 am

demonbluedays wrote:
Fri Oct 05, 2018 12:33 pm
We think the arial may be a relay as I now hear a dull click/tick when the radio shuts off, coming from in line with the warning cluster lights on the dashboard, but as said previously I'm going to get the thing to retract and disconnect
Perhaps you should try Persil instead of Ariel? ;-)

It is likely that the permanent live to the aerial is missing. The motor should be powered all the time from an unswitched supply. The sense wire on the radio just tells it what to do. If the permanent live goes down with the radio or ignition, it would give your symptoms.


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Post by Terry H » Sat Oct 06, 2018 10:14 am

It is likely that the permanent live to the aerial is missing.
Thanks AJL there is a permanent live wire floating about behind the radio cavity. It could be that I knocked the wire off when I stuck my arm in there looking for the wiper wheel box, that by the way there is no access to behind the radio.
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Post by demonbluedays » Sat Oct 06, 2018 11:01 am

Cheers Andy :lol: my spelling does tend to go a bit boobs upward using my mobile devices as they switch between both for autocorrect all the time :roll:

As for that wire I'll hunt it down soon....eventually....maybe....anyway

Sarinas now said at she may use mighty from time to time over the VW and her as yet unpurchased motobike :shock:

So anyone hoping to get an original manual gearknob from GW you are out of luck, I just bought the last one :twisted:

Saves me having to play parrot about where reverse is as the current one (which is easier to grab and thankfully as we know pops on and off easily) doesn't have the layout on it.


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Post by demonbluedays » Wed Oct 17, 2018 12:43 pm

New gearknob fitted, looks perfect

Also mighty was signed over to myself this morning, meaning officially I am now back in GTE ownership!!

Small run for fuel and back this morning due to time constraints but.....

Tracking is now bang on

Thst spade will be sorted so OD is back in action

Small fluid leak underneath but I'll find it and stop it


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Post by demonbluedays » Thu Oct 18, 2018 12:03 pm

Well, overdrive won't be functional on Mighty for a little bit, went to undo the bodge job done when it was taken to a workshop in Cwmbran, all was going well until I was about to put the spade connector on, then the wire broke :hand:

Wire was rock solid and looked as if it had been spliced again on another end as the break was too clean where it had come off.

So, that's another one on the to do list!
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Mighty is taking main duty tomorrow as King (see signature) is being sidelined for 24/48 hours to have brake disc and pad replacement first true run out for me in her and I absolutely can't wait!

Update how it goes tomorrow!


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Post by Coupe Racing » Fri Oct 19, 2018 10:33 am

Front brakes should take no more than 90 mins on a modern on the floor
24 to 48 hours ?


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Post by upstart8s » Fri Oct 19, 2018 10:44 am

Coupe Racing wrote:
Fri Oct 19, 2018 10:33 am
Front brakes should take no more than 90 mins on a modern on the floor
24 to 48 hours ?
How long for a cylinder head gasket change? I am just entering my 4th week! When I got there, I found it didn't need doing anyway. Should be running by Monday...
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Post by upstart8s » Fri Oct 19, 2018 10:46 am

Is there a 1-point lesson anywhere on using smilies in posts on the forum? Nothing I have tried works for me...
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