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Post by Ford » Mon Feb 05, 2018 7:11 pm

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Hi and a very welcome to the world of Reliant Small Sports cars. You look as if you have an interesting and challenging project there. May I have the VIN please so I can check if your car is on the register?

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I had sent quite a bit of info by email last month, but I'll PM it on here later this evening, Mike.


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Post by Roger Pennington » Tue Feb 06, 2018 1:53 am

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Got everything off at one side, but still can't get the other handbrake cable off. Seems to be a square piece on the inside of the backplate stopping it from pushing out.
Any tips?

Also was surprised that not a drop of oil came out of the differential when removing a half shaft.
From memory, I think both ends of the handbrake cable are identical? So there shouldn't be any bits different on one side from the other?
(Actually, one thought - is it the left hand side that won't come out? If so, is the inner cable seized in the outer on that side? I#ve had to change two cables which seized on the LHS because it's close to the exhaust)

Re the diff, again from memory, I think the filler plug is at the same level or even slightly below the drive shafts, so as long as it's jacked up level I don't think it will run out (I don't remember mine leaking when I did it).


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Post by reliant-reviver » Tue Feb 06, 2018 9:46 am

The outer ferrule can seize into the back plate. Brute force needed.

Just to confirm, do not try to remove the cable with the shoes in place. You need to unhook the lower spring, and pull both shoes away, tilt the rear shoe back, swivel it down towards you, jam the shoe cable lever open and then rotate the shoe / assembly to free the inner through the exit hole.

Worth mentioning as some have reported struggling with the shoes. It should take less than a minute to whip them off and on again if you are well practiced!


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Post by Ford » Tue Feb 06, 2018 4:51 pm

Roger Pennington wrote:
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Left hand side is stuck, yep. Good news about the oil, thank you Roger.
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Yep, brakes have all been taken off.

I've got the handbrake cable able to spin in the backplate now, but definitely can't get it out. I'll try having another look tomorrow afternoon and hopefully get to the bottom of it.


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Post by Corky » Tue Feb 06, 2018 5:11 pm

Those back plates and cables look to be in the same condition as the ones I took of my current SS1 project. In the end I just cut the cable off and replaced it with a new one. I managed to rescue the backplates by de-rusting them with an angry grinder fitted with a flap disc, then painting them.

In fact I rescued more parts than I thought possible with the flap disc method ! There was more good metal than I first realised.....

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Post by Roger Pennington » Tue Feb 06, 2018 5:23 pm

Yes, if the inner cable is seized then you've nothing to lose by cutting it off, because you'll need a new cable anyway. You'll probably see evidence of where it's been burnt on the exhaust. Heat-reflecting wrap may help to preserve it. New cables should be available from QRG or GW. If you're replacing the cable, then check if it's got the original plastic wheel at the handbrake lever end - if it has I'd replace it with one of the alloy ones that are available now, as they are more durable. :)


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Post by Ford » Tue Feb 06, 2018 5:36 pm

The inner wheel arch has melted quite a lot from the exhaust, so I'm sure the handbrake cable will have too.
Approx. how much do they cost from QRG or GW?


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Post by Corky » Tue Feb 06, 2018 6:07 pm

Currently £42 at QRG. May be a bit cheaper at GW.

They’re quite a big heavy piece of kit, so £42 is pretty good value by my reckoning.


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Post by Littlescim » Tue Feb 06, 2018 6:43 pm

Hi Ford I have a pair of back plates that are like new if you want them £30 + postage



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Post by Ford » Tue Feb 06, 2018 7:02 pm

I definitely want to have the brakes in tip top condition, so will add handbrake cables to my shopping list.

Littlescim, I think my backplates will probably be OK once I've cleaned them up, but I will get in touch if I do end up needing new ones.

Thank you all for your help. I didn't really fancy going out in the snow to crawl around under the car today, but it's all wrapped up
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Post by Alan SS1 » Wed Feb 07, 2018 1:44 pm

to reduce the melting effect of the exhaust onto the handbrake cable I inserted a 40mm piece of tube between chassis and clamp (adding a piece of 1/4" plate so the cable had somat to clamp to) and also a piece of old PVC garden hose as a sacrificial layer :-)


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Post by Ford » Thu Feb 08, 2018 1:55 pm

I spoke to a wheel refurbishing place around the corner from my house and was quoted £60 inc VAT to do the 5 wheels and remove/refit tyres.

Never having bought car tyres before, I'd appreciate any input on what would be a good choice.

EDIT:
Some on the shortlist are
  • Kumho ES01 Ecowing
  • Yokahama AE01 BluEarth
  • Goodyear EfficientGrip Performance
  • Hankook Kinergy Eco
  • Dunlop Sport BluResponse
  • Pirelli P1 Cinturato Verde
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Post by reliant-reviver » Thu Feb 08, 2018 2:46 pm

Per wheel that is a good price with the tyres on and off.
I presume that price is in a standard colour coat?
If there isn't much corrosion go for a "premium" or plain silver. If the wheels are likely to have corrosion pitting after blasting, then a metallic silver will help hide that.

Please don't go for a dark colour. KN diamonds look naff in anything but a bright / clean colour.


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Post by reliant-reviver » Thu Feb 08, 2018 2:49 pm

Worth checking the dates of manufacture on the tyres. A new set of good brand tyres is about 140 quid, and dare I say it, someone will buy your old ones on eBay at 10-15 a pop if the tread is okay regardless of age.


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Post by Ford » Thu Feb 08, 2018 2:53 pm

reliant-reviver wrote:
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I'd want to go for something as close to the original look as possible.

This is the place http://wheelemin.co.uk/gallery/

I've been tidying the garage the past few evenings and can't get to the wheels currently, but I'll have a good look later, but the current tyres are badly cracked and probably well past being usable.


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