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Post by Corky » Thu Nov 15, 2018 9:17 pm

This is from one of my project threads. Shows the b’stard nut :mrgreen:

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This is the nut. But of course the only way in is from the top of the manifold, between the engine block. So Trevor's loop spanner looks spot on.

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With a 14mm nut you can just about get a ring spanner on. But only if the stud sits at the lower point of the stud hole (on mine anyway)
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This is a 12mm flanged nut. It actually allows a ratchet spanner in. This worked when I initially took it to pieces, but I couldn't get it back on the nut when I was building back up (probably due to where the stud was poking through the hole)
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Edit:- I think the rebuild process may be a bit easier, as the solid water pipes won't be in the way now I've swapped them for flexis.


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Post by Benc » Sat Nov 24, 2018 4:05 pm

Turbo removed, wasn’t to difficult apart from the oil feedpipe but that’s what junior hacksaws are for🤔
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Post by Benc » Sat Nov 24, 2018 4:07 pm

Is this the standard turbo reliant fitted?
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Post by Corky » Sat Nov 24, 2018 4:16 pm

I see it’s still connected to the manifold :lol: :wink:


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Post by Benc » Sat Nov 24, 2018 4:25 pm

Yes definitely easier that way now removed on bench see picture further up



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Post by Corky » Sat Nov 24, 2018 4:45 pm

Time to get the die grinder out.


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Post by Dcrosby13 » Sat Nov 24, 2018 5:37 pm

Yes that is a standard T2, looking at the exhaust manifold id be concerned about the crack in the top left corner, everything else can be ground out but that cant.


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Post by Corky » Sat Nov 24, 2018 6:07 pm

I filled one of mine with mig weld. It worked a treat. Still going strong 4-5 years on I believe.


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Post by Benc » Sun Nov 25, 2018 3:18 pm

What end / olive nut is needed for the turbo oil feed pipe? Engine end pipe example below.
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Post by Benc » Tue Nov 27, 2018 1:45 pm

Next question.... whats the best method to remove the upper wishbone long bolt? Nut came off no problem, bolt different story....

Heat on the bolt / chassis OR
grinder to chop the bolt first to get the wishbone out of the way then heat / punch and hammer time?
Or some other voodoo method :D
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Post by reliant-reviver » Tue Nov 27, 2018 1:58 pm

Don't heat the chassis excessively or you will have a bolt fused into the chassis by molten zinc!

If it really is stuck then first thing, inner wing and brake lines out the way. 3/4 drive breaker bar in the bolt head and see what happens with the bolt. May as well shear it off somewhere!

Various tips

Drill two or more small holes into the top cross tube to feed in lubricant and check on the bolt to see where it is seized.

Air chisel and blunt tool run along the top of the chassis tube can help free things up.

If the bolt is seriously stuck abs needs drifting out, consider counter boring the end of it with a drill the same diameter as your drift. This will hold the drift in place and ensure the force is directed down into the bolt rather than risk distorting the protruding bolt.


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Post by Corky » Tue Nov 27, 2018 4:16 pm

Benc wrote:
Sun Nov 25, 2018 3:18 pm
What end / olive nut is needed for the turbo oil feed pipe? Engine end pipe example below.

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Post by Benc » Tue Nov 27, 2018 6:07 pm

Cheers Steve

I’ve bought a pipe from qrg with loose olive so soon be sorted turbo wise.....



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Post by CNHSS1 » Tue Nov 27, 2018 9:36 pm

Proper penetrating oil and soak for about 10 times as long as you think is enough. Find big breaker bar and 10ft scaffold pole over the bar. If doesn't want to budge, 2 x small holes drilled through cross tube as Phil says and keep soaking with penetrating oil. The odd tickle witj a lump hammer either end for fun but don't bend the bolt. In fact check bolts is straight and true, as even when loose it'll jam in the cross tube.

That'll do it 😉👍


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Post by Alan SS1 » Wed Nov 28, 2018 12:47 pm

CNHSS1 wrote:
Tue Nov 27, 2018 9:36 pm
Proper penetrating oil and soak for about 10 times as long as you think is enough. Find big breaker bar and 10ft scaffold pole over the bar. If doesn't want to budge, 2 x small holes drilled through cross tube as Phil says and keep soaking with penetrating oil. The odd tickle witj a lump hammer either end for fun but don't bend the bolt. In fact check bolts is straight and true, as even when loose it'll jam in the cross tube.

That'll do it 😉👍
or not, i ended up shearing the head off the bolt! (up side was that was a flat surface to drill into ??)

I'll look for the photos I took, I ended up cutting a slot half way along the top of tube to get enough freedom.

I'd left it a few weeks and after cutting into the steel tube it was still 'dry' nowt had soaked past the inner ends (and that was with drilling small holes at each end to try and let the stuff soak in.) and I had FULL access as no wing fitted at the time. so it might not be a five minute task . . . ..

here is what it took to free the one side (the other side slid out)
you can see th eholes added at outer ends, then just inboard AND in the middle!! (before angle grinder broken out :shock: )
after the slot was added I used a cold chisel to 'open' out the tube and out poppped the remains of the bolt
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