Ben's SS1 - SSF novice sprint car

If you have a long-term project and would like to share/document progress, this is for you.

Moderators: scimjim, philhoward, erikscimitardemon, Roger Pennington, Lukeyboy46

User avatar
Corky
RSSOC Member
Posts: 10606
Joined: Sun Sep 24, 2006 5:02 am
Location: Macclesfield
Has thanked: 130 times
Been thanked: 142 times

Ben's SS1 - SSF novice sprint car

Post by Corky » Thu Nov 15, 2018 4:00 pm

reliant-reviver wrote:
Thu Nov 15, 2018 3:40 pm
The b*stard but need not be a problem. You just need the tools to suit.


Reminds me of a Billy Connolly quote ”there’s no such thing as bad weather, just the wrong clothes”.


Steve
Current:- SS1 Ti RG sprint car. VW Touareg 3.0 V6
Prev:- Sabre Ti, 3xSS1 Ti, SS1 16v Turbo Racer, 5XGTC, 2XSE6B, 2XSE5A, 2XV6 Coupe, Sabre 6
Project Threads & YouTube

“It's not the winning, it's the taking apart that counts"

User avatar
CNHSS1
RSSOC Member
Posts: 13938
Joined: Tue Aug 22, 2006 5:13 pm
Location: Shrewsbury, Shropshire
Has thanked: 235 times
Been thanked: 217 times
Contact:

Ben's SS1 - SSF novice sprint car

Post by CNHSS1 » Thu Nov 15, 2018 4:28 pm

Really RR you do spout utter bollox sometimes! With all the bent spanners at my disposal, plus some I modifed with oxy flame, 'that' nut is always a pain, especially if the manifolds not been off since leaving the factory. Copious soaking with proper penetrating liquid (not WD40 or AJL will start to twitch bless him!) And ideally a good cleaning up with a mini wire brush, all by Braille as one can't get ones bonce down there to see, and even once all the prep has been done, the nut is very often corroded having been heated to 700degrees every day the car was run, so will be soft or mishappen. A mirror or even better USB endoscope connected to your phone will at least help get correct purchase on the nut with whichever spanner you choose so as not to risk rounding off. Even then, the stud may wind out of the head, jamming the spanner against the turbo/manifold making it an even less enjoyable task.
The process shouldn't be made light of, as if someone hasn't attempted before they need to be prepared before tackling it, giving the task a much much higher chance of success without succumbing to a gallon of shells finest and a Zippo and torching the bloody thing

Ben
You'll be fine, just heed the warnings of those more mature than him of the funny hair, and it'll be cool, slowly slowly catchy monkey.
If you send me your postal address I'll loan you a few 'special' spanners mate


Racing is life, everything before and after, is just waiting--Steve McQueen
6 time Class Champ, 2006 & 2014 SSSC Champion

RIP Batmobile, await the Rise of Dark Knight 8)
Sabre 'Light Sabre' 360hp!!
Image

User avatar
scimjim
RSSOC Member
Posts: 35884
Joined: Sun Oct 01, 2006 10:08 pm
Location: Gloucester
Has thanked: 113 times
Been thanked: 820 times

Ben's SS1 - SSF novice sprint car

Post by scimjim » Thu Nov 15, 2018 4:33 pm

Just recently done the HG on snotty - and of course, the manifold nuts were a different size to the special tool I made last time I did the job :D

Even with the right tools, you can still only get a flat or two at a time, so it takes ages.


Jim King

Current: SE5 (8Ball), TI SS1 (snotty), 1600 SS1 (G97), 1600 SS1 (C686CCR), 2.5TD SE5a (diesel 5a), 6 x random other SS1s.
Previous: SE5, 3 x SE5a, 2 x SE6a, 3 x SE6b, GTC, 2.9i GTC, 3 x 1600 SS1, 1300 SS1, Mk1 Ti Sabre, Mk1.5 CVH Sabre
Chief mechanic for: 1400 K series SS1 (Megan3), 1400 CVH EFi SS1 (Grawpy), Sabre/MX5 auto (The Flying Broomstick),
1300 SS1 (Number One) & Sarah's coupe.
CURE THE FAULT - NOT THE SYMPTOMS

Dcrosby13
RSSOC Member
Posts: 650
Joined: Mon Mar 28, 2016 5:28 pm
Location: Warrington
Has thanked: 4 times
Been thanked: 17 times

Ben's SS1 - SSF novice sprint car

Post by Dcrosby13 » Thu Nov 15, 2018 4:34 pm

this might sound extreme but pulling the engine and gearbox made it much easier, especially if its not been apart in a long time. still a pig though.


I break stuff...... :w

Dcrosby13
RSSOC Member
Posts: 650
Joined: Mon Mar 28, 2016 5:28 pm
Location: Warrington
Has thanked: 4 times
Been thanked: 17 times

Ben's SS1 - SSF novice sprint car

Post by Dcrosby13 » Thu Nov 15, 2018 4:35 pm

Ben once the rear end of mine is back together you are welcome to come and use my crane to pull the engine if you want.


I break stuff...... :w

User avatar
reliant-reviver
RSSOC Member
Posts: 4608
Joined: Thu Jun 14, 2007 8:05 pm
Location: Beighton, Sheffield
Has thanked: 68 times
Been thanked: 113 times

Ben's SS1 - SSF novice sprint car

Post by reliant-reviver » Thu Nov 15, 2018 4:50 pm

Could have removed the bloomin nut in the time it took to write that Craig!

It is still a "b*stard nut" mind and time consuming. But straight forward enough if a little tedious.

You can even get ratchet S shape spanners. There's a tool for everything these days...


Philip Andrew.
'74 Robin Super Saloon, '84 SS1 1300, '86 SS1 1800ti, '87 SS1 1300
Previous: I lost count around fifty.

User avatar
scimjim
RSSOC Member
Posts: 35884
Joined: Sun Oct 01, 2006 10:08 pm
Location: Gloucester
Has thanked: 113 times
Been thanked: 820 times

Ben's SS1 - SSF novice sprint car

Post by scimjim » Thu Nov 15, 2018 6:15 pm

Ratchet ones don’t fit, the ratchet mechanism makes them too big.


Jim King

Current: SE5 (8Ball), TI SS1 (snotty), 1600 SS1 (G97), 1600 SS1 (C686CCR), 2.5TD SE5a (diesel 5a), 6 x random other SS1s.
Previous: SE5, 3 x SE5a, 2 x SE6a, 3 x SE6b, GTC, 2.9i GTC, 3 x 1600 SS1, 1300 SS1, Mk1 Ti Sabre, Mk1.5 CVH Sabre
Chief mechanic for: 1400 K series SS1 (Megan3), 1400 CVH EFi SS1 (Grawpy), Sabre/MX5 auto (The Flying Broomstick),
1300 SS1 (Number One) & Sarah's coupe.
CURE THE FAULT - NOT THE SYMPTOMS

User avatar
td99
RSSOC Member
Posts: 1685
Joined: Sat Jun 30, 2007 9:37 pm
Location: Eindhoven, Netherlands
Has thanked: 16 times
Been thanked: 20 times

Ben's SS1 - SSF novice sprint car

Post by td99 » Thu Nov 15, 2018 6:58 pm

Or just make your own...
There's also an offset for the ring upwards in relation to spanner body in this photo/plane.
This gets it undone and then good and tight!
Attachments
B-Nut Tool.JPG
B-Nut Tool.JPG (60.61 KiB) Viewed 251 times


Trevor - 1800Ti daily driver
1800Ti DET project, RAV4

Benc
RSSOC Member
Posts: 334
Joined: Thu Nov 07, 2013 8:58 pm
Has thanked: 28 times
Been thanked: 12 times

Ben's SS1 - SSF novice sprint car

Post by Benc » Thu Nov 15, 2018 8:08 pm

Chaps

Which is this fatherless nut you all fear.....

Answers by pictures :D



User avatar
td99
RSSOC Member
Posts: 1685
Joined: Sat Jun 30, 2007 9:37 pm
Location: Eindhoven, Netherlands
Has thanked: 16 times
Been thanked: 20 times

Ben's SS1 - SSF novice sprint car

Post by td99 » Thu Nov 15, 2018 8:14 pm

No picture possible until you've removed the manifold. Then, what's the point!
It's at the front underneath of the manifold.
Best to remove distributor to gain clearance whatever spanner.


Trevor - 1800Ti daily driver
1800Ti DET project, RAV4

b.c.flat hat
RSSOC Member
Posts: 1992
Joined: Tue Aug 28, 2007 6:29 pm
Location: St. Martins, Oswestry.
Has thanked: 43 times
Been thanked: 80 times

Ben's SS1 - SSF novice sprint car

Post by b.c.flat hat » Thu Nov 15, 2018 8:18 pm

Never trusted wedge pedallers, there's voodoo involved😜



User avatar
td99
RSSOC Member
Posts: 1685
Joined: Sat Jun 30, 2007 9:37 pm
Location: Eindhoven, Netherlands
Has thanked: 16 times
Been thanked: 20 times

Ben's SS1 - SSF novice sprint car

Post by td99 » Thu Nov 15, 2018 8:26 pm

b.c.flat hat wrote:
Thu Nov 15, 2018 8:18 pm
Never trusted wedge pedallers, there's voodoo involved😜
That's why they go faster :P :P :P


Trevor - 1800Ti daily driver
1800Ti DET project, RAV4

Benc
RSSOC Member
Posts: 334
Joined: Thu Nov 07, 2013 8:58 pm
Has thanked: 28 times
Been thanked: 12 times

Ben's SS1 - SSF novice sprint car

Post by Benc » Thu Nov 15, 2018 8:29 pm

Ah BC I have one of each :w



Dcrosby13
RSSOC Member
Posts: 650
Joined: Mon Mar 28, 2016 5:28 pm
Location: Warrington
Has thanked: 4 times
Been thanked: 17 times

Ben's SS1 - SSF novice sprint car

Post by Dcrosby13 » Thu Nov 15, 2018 8:30 pm

No one has ever actually managed to take a picture of the fabled creature Ben


I break stuff...... :w

User avatar
CNHSS1
RSSOC Member
Posts: 13938
Joined: Tue Aug 22, 2006 5:13 pm
Location: Shrewsbury, Shropshire
Has thanked: 235 times
Been thanked: 217 times
Contact:

Ben's SS1 - SSF novice sprint car

Post by CNHSS1 » Thu Nov 15, 2018 8:50 pm

When rebuilding after removal, I use either a normal nut, and spin on with fingers and then just tighten last few flats, or in have used genuine Nissan nuts which are a spanner size smaller than the norm for that thread diameter 12mm vs 13mm as norm iirc. Only issue witj genuine Nissan ones is that they are slightly crimped at one end so they don't loosen by themselves (fat bloody chance :lol: ) so you need to wind them in and off a spare stud in the vice or run a tap through, just to rid the crimped self grip bit.
I use crimped tri-loc aftermarket nuts on the other 5 studs where access is normal


Racing is life, everything before and after, is just waiting--Steve McQueen
6 time Class Champ, 2006 & 2014 SSSC Champion

RIP Batmobile, await the Rise of Dark Knight 8)
Sabre 'Light Sabre' 360hp!!
Image

Post Reply

Return to “Project Progress”