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Grawpy

Post by scimjim » Sat Jan 07, 2017 8:12 pm

Grawpy is a galv 1400 SS1 belonging to Sam. After blowing the engine up on the way back from France 4 or 5 years ago, we fitted an unknown 1600 and 5 speed box. After years of daily commuting it's now using more oil than petrol, the paint is pretty faded, the interior has seen better days, the diff is leaking and the Carlton discs are causing brake judder and were borderline on the MOT.

Options for the engine were:

Rebuild the 1600
Fit another 1600
Fit the 1.8 MX5 engine and box that's waiting for a new home
Fit the 1400 injection CVH that's been waiting for a home for many years.

Eventually we decided on the 1.4i because the MX5 needed a bit too much work that we haven't trialled yet (dash clocks, speedo cable, prop, gearbox mount and electrics. We've only really looked at engine mounts and exhaust so far). The iCVH needs a trigger wheel and the fuel system upgrading to injection (Sabre Ti tank fitted, pipes replaced and electric pump fitted).

DJ changed the diff before Christmas (we had a 3.62 ready for the MX5 option) - a standard 3.92 went in.
I changed the discs last weekend - the old ones were really worn!

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The old engine came out quite easily

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and after throwing some paint at it and replacing some seals,

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the new one went in today

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Current: SE5 (8Ball), TI SS1 (snotty), 1600 SS1 (G97), 1600 SS1 (C686CCR), 2.5TD SE5a (diesel 5a), 6 x random other SS1s.
Previous: SE5, 3 x SE5a, 2 x SE6a, 3 x SE6b, GTC, 2.9i GTC, 3 x 1600 SS1, 1300 SS1, Mk1 Ti Sabre, Mk1.5 CVH Sabre
Chief mechanic for: 1400 K series SS1 (Megan3), 1400 CVH EFi SS1 (Grawpy), Sabre/MX5 auto (The Flying Broomstick),
1300 SS1 (Number One) & Sarah's coupe.
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Re: Grawpy

Post by erikscimitardemon » Sun Jan 08, 2017 10:04 am

You've been busy!


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Re: Grawpy

Post by peter freeman » Sun Jan 08, 2017 10:18 am

Personally I would have gone for the Nissan engine as I'm not a fan of the CVH - no idea what difference the injection makes to it though so will watch with interest as the job progresses.



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Re: Grawpy

Post by scimjim » Sun Jan 08, 2017 10:57 am

Unfortunately I sold the turbo from my spare Ti to a forum member in need.

I have a Ti engine, ECU, loom, exhaust manifold, gearbox and instruments but along with a turbo, would need a prop & AFM - if the unknown engine needed any work, the conversion could get expensive.


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Current: SE5 (8Ball), TI SS1 (snotty), 1600 SS1 (G97), 1600 SS1 (C686CCR), 2.5TD SE5a (diesel 5a), 6 x random other SS1s.
Previous: SE5, 3 x SE5a, 2 x SE6a, 3 x SE6b, GTC, 2.9i GTC, 3 x 1600 SS1, 1300 SS1, Mk1 Ti Sabre, Mk1.5 CVH Sabre
Chief mechanic for: 1400 K series SS1 (Megan3), 1400 CVH EFi SS1 (Grawpy), Sabre/MX5 auto (The Flying Broomstick),
1300 SS1 (Number One) & Sarah's coupe.
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Re: Grawpy

Post by peter freeman » Sun Jan 08, 2017 11:01 am

Ah well time will tell - best of luck with it anyway.



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Re: Grawpy

Post by scimjim » Sun Jan 08, 2017 11:02 am

I think this will also be interesting to see if it's true that the last of the CVH engines were the best of the bunch. Apart from being rough around the edges (NVH) and underpowered from the factory, if you look after them they are fairly bulletproof to begin with and very simple to work on. I recall driving a friends new fiesta Si with this engine and was quite impressed at the time (although I was driving a 1300 spitfire then :-))


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Current: SE5 (8Ball), TI SS1 (snotty), 1600 SS1 (G97), 1600 SS1 (C686CCR), 2.5TD SE5a (diesel 5a), 6 x random other SS1s.
Previous: SE5, 3 x SE5a, 2 x SE6a, 3 x SE6b, GTC, 2.9i GTC, 3 x 1600 SS1, 1300 SS1, Mk1 Ti Sabre, Mk1.5 CVH Sabre
Chief mechanic for: 1400 K series SS1 (Megan3), 1400 CVH EFi SS1 (Grawpy), Sabre/MX5 auto (The Flying Broomstick),
1300 SS1 (Number One) & Sarah's coupe.
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Re: Grawpy

Post by philhoward » Sun Jan 08, 2017 11:56 am

Why go for a trigger wheel on the pulley end? Use the EFi flywheel, and a Mondeo Clutch (just like you'd do when fitting a Zetec) with the standard sensor location? In fact, I thought that only an EFi flywheel fits an EFi crank as one of the holes is slightly off-pitch?


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Re: Grawpy

Post by scimjim » Sun Jan 08, 2017 4:55 pm

All CVH flywheels are interchangeable AFAIK - certainly the one that I fitted has the offset holes. Unfortunately the engine came without a flywheel (or is long lost :-)) and it's fitted now!


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Current: SE5 (8Ball), TI SS1 (snotty), 1600 SS1 (G97), 1600 SS1 (C686CCR), 2.5TD SE5a (diesel 5a), 6 x random other SS1s.
Previous: SE5, 3 x SE5a, 2 x SE6a, 3 x SE6b, GTC, 2.9i GTC, 3 x 1600 SS1, 1300 SS1, Mk1 Ti Sabre, Mk1.5 CVH Sabre
Chief mechanic for: 1400 K series SS1 (Megan3), 1400 CVH EFi SS1 (Grawpy), Sabre/MX5 auto (The Flying Broomstick),
1300 SS1 (Number One) & Sarah's coupe.
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Re: Grawpy

Post by nickkeyser » Sun Jan 08, 2017 5:06 pm

Cool project. Has anyone else run one of these EFi manifolds / CVH injection on an SS1 before?


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Re: Grawpy

Post by scimjim » Sun Jan 08, 2017 5:36 pm

I think there may be one undocumented 1600EFi running around? I have a 1600EFi head and inlet too :-)


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Current: SE5 (8Ball), TI SS1 (snotty), 1600 SS1 (G97), 1600 SS1 (C686CCR), 2.5TD SE5a (diesel 5a), 6 x random other SS1s.
Previous: SE5, 3 x SE5a, 2 x SE6a, 3 x SE6b, GTC, 2.9i GTC, 3 x 1600 SS1, 1300 SS1, Mk1 Ti Sabre, Mk1.5 CVH Sabre
Chief mechanic for: 1400 K series SS1 (Megan3), 1400 CVH EFi SS1 (Grawpy), Sabre/MX5 auto (The Flying Broomstick),
1300 SS1 (Number One) & Sarah's coupe.
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Re: Grawpy

Post by efi_sprintgte » Sun Jan 08, 2017 6:31 pm

I recall my mates RS turbo that was MFI and we megasquirt EFI'd.. we built a new engine up based on a injection block and crank and we had to use a different flywheel I'm sure.



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Re: Grawpy

Post by scimjim » Sun Jan 08, 2017 8:37 pm

Took the opportunity to see if there's any difference between FWD and RWD sumps

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FWD:

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The additional hole (bottom left of pic) could just be a later addition but it's the only difference I can see.


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Current: SE5 (8Ball), TI SS1 (snotty), 1600 SS1 (G97), 1600 SS1 (C686CCR), 2.5TD SE5a (diesel 5a), 6 x random other SS1s.
Previous: SE5, 3 x SE5a, 2 x SE6a, 3 x SE6b, GTC, 2.9i GTC, 3 x 1600 SS1, 1300 SS1, Mk1 Ti Sabre, Mk1.5 CVH Sabre
Chief mechanic for: 1400 K series SS1 (Megan3), 1400 CVH EFi SS1 (Grawpy), Sabre/MX5 auto (The Flying Broomstick),
1300 SS1 (Number One) & Sarah's coupe.
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Re: Grawpy

Post by scimjim » Sun Jan 08, 2017 8:40 pm

A little CAD to cover the crank position sensor hole

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And 2 minutes with a bit of GRP:

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Current: SE5 (8Ball), TI SS1 (snotty), 1600 SS1 (G97), 1600 SS1 (C686CCR), 2.5TD SE5a (diesel 5a), 6 x random other SS1s.
Previous: SE5, 3 x SE5a, 2 x SE6a, 3 x SE6b, GTC, 2.9i GTC, 3 x 1600 SS1, 1300 SS1, Mk1 Ti Sabre, Mk1.5 CVH Sabre
Chief mechanic for: 1400 K series SS1 (Megan3), 1400 CVH EFi SS1 (Grawpy), Sabre/MX5 auto (The Flying Broomstick),
1300 SS1 (Number One) & Sarah's coupe.
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Re: Grawpy

Post by scimjim » Sun Jan 08, 2017 8:42 pm

The old v new Carlton discs

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And this may explain the vibration

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Current: SE5 (8Ball), TI SS1 (snotty), 1600 SS1 (G97), 1600 SS1 (C686CCR), 2.5TD SE5a (diesel 5a), 6 x random other SS1s.
Previous: SE5, 3 x SE5a, 2 x SE6a, 3 x SE6b, GTC, 2.9i GTC, 3 x 1600 SS1, 1300 SS1, Mk1 Ti Sabre, Mk1.5 CVH Sabre
Chief mechanic for: 1400 K series SS1 (Megan3), 1400 CVH EFi SS1 (Grawpy), Sabre/MX5 auto (The Flying Broomstick),
1300 SS1 (Number One) & Sarah's coupe.
CURE THE FAULT - NOT THE SYMPTOMS

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Re: Grawpy

Post by scimjim » Sun Jan 08, 2017 8:48 pm

A little wiring. Replace the ring end on the starter motor to alternator wire

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Replace the metal tape on the wires that run near the exhaust

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and add loom tape

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Then moved onto the hard stuff :-)

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Current: SE5 (8Ball), TI SS1 (snotty), 1600 SS1 (G97), 1600 SS1 (C686CCR), 2.5TD SE5a (diesel 5a), 6 x random other SS1s.
Previous: SE5, 3 x SE5a, 2 x SE6a, 3 x SE6b, GTC, 2.9i GTC, 3 x 1600 SS1, 1300 SS1, Mk1 Ti Sabre, Mk1.5 CVH Sabre
Chief mechanic for: 1400 K series SS1 (Megan3), 1400 CVH EFi SS1 (Grawpy), Sabre/MX5 auto (The Flying Broomstick),
1300 SS1 (Number One) & Sarah's coupe.
CURE THE FAULT - NOT THE SYMPTOMS

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