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SS1 - Istrian Bue 1600

Post by MarkHawkins » Sun Aug 28, 2016 10:14 pm

Having decided that maybe a GTE wasn't the best car for driving practice around towns, we now have an SS1 taking the place of the green 6a that went to start a new life in Germany yesterday. Hoping to get it MoTd this week. Today we addressed the non moving headlamps - a combination of trim adjustment and poor electric connections, the passenger electric window (electrical again) and poor connections on the horn. The 15" alloy wheels have good Pirrelli tyres but two of the wheels have noticeable 'flats' in them. I'll see what a local wheel specialist makes of them. If they can't be straightened out, options are original wheels or more 15" wheels. I wonder if MGF wheels fit? The paint needs attention in places but that will have to wait. Bucket seats are fitted - these are rather snug so we may be swapping them out for originals at some point. Anti freeze question - what sort for the CVH - is red long life the thing to use?
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Re: SS1 - Istrian Bue 1600

Post by manny » Sun Aug 28, 2016 10:25 pm

nice one..

I know MGF wheels fit a TR7 - but the PCD is not the same as the SS1 ( 4x100) - MGF\TR7 are 4x 95.25

.. i got mine about 5 weeks ago now

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Re: SS1 - Istrian Bue 1600

Post by MarkHawkins » Sun Aug 28, 2016 10:37 pm

I was thinking of MGF wheels as I thought there was a common Metro connection?


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Post by reliant-reviver » Sun Aug 28, 2016 10:38 pm

Wondered where it had disappeared to on ebay!

i shall be having some original Michelotti style alloys refurbished soon if you want to earmark a set.
Best to stick the 15s back on ebay if you ask me!


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Re: SS1 - Istrian Bue 1600

Post by scimjim » Sun Aug 28, 2016 10:45 pm

MarkHawkins wrote:I was thinking of MGF wheels as I thought there was a common Metro connection?
The only metro connection is the calipers and some interior bits.


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Re: SS1 - Istrian Bue 1600

Post by MarkHawkins » Sun Aug 28, 2016 10:58 pm

They do look like good tyres - Pirrelli P6000. I think the deciding factor will be insurance - the quote we have is on a standard car - the 15" wheels may change this ..


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Re: SS1 - Istrian Bue 1600

Post by Elizabeth's dad » Sun Aug 28, 2016 11:00 pm

Rover 25/45 alloys fit, but could do with a thin spacer on the rear.


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Re: SS1 - Istrian Bue 1600

Post by reliant-reviver » Sun Aug 28, 2016 11:32 pm

May look good, but how old are they?

Half a dozen"good" Pirelli P600s and P6000s in my pile but you wouldn't want to drive on any of them!


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Re: SS1 - Istrian Bue 1600

Post by richardvernon » Mon Aug 29, 2016 8:38 am

MarkHawkins wrote:Anti freeze question - what sort for the CVH - is red long life the thing to use?
Open to a bit of debate on various threads.

I used the modern orange long life (OAT)stuff for a few years - with no apparent problems but have decided to revert back to the old fashioned blue ethylene glycol stuff as there are a number of classic car owners who seem to be having issues with modern antifreezes in general.


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Re: SS1 - Istrian Bue 1600

Post by greeny » Mon Aug 29, 2016 8:41 am

We had these from a rover 25 on our sst for a while (tyres are ok too!!) but yes small spacer on the rears is needed.

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Re: SS1 - Istrian Bue 1600

Post by Alan SS1 » Mon Aug 29, 2016 8:55 pm

i'm with blue Anti-freeze, only as i've always used it and most of our cars pre-dated new fancy anti-freeze stuff that may or may not be compatible . . , . . .

swapping from 14" to 15" might not cause an issue, depends on the insurance company (and way wind blowing that day :wink: ) 100mm PCD, should give a wide choice of wheels but offset is usually for FWD so not much cope . . . and agian some insurance get sniffy about swapping one style for another :(

I thought RR had a stack of bottle tops ready for sale, whilst others were chucking them away?


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Re: SS1 - Istrian Bue 1600

Post by Alan SS1 » Mon Aug 29, 2016 9:00 pm

scimjim wrote:
MarkHawkins wrote:I was thinking of MGF wheels as I thought there was a common Metro connection?
The only metro connection is the calipers and some interior bits.
and if really pedantic, also the stalks & switches (some of?) :wink:

note LHS metro caliper is RHS SS1 ! , just in case you need to repair/swap one :w


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Re: SS1 - Istrian Bue 1600

Post by Roger Pennington » Mon Aug 29, 2016 9:07 pm

richardvernon wrote:
MarkHawkins wrote:Anti freeze question - what sort for the CVH - is red long life the thing to use?
Open to a bit of debate on various threads.

I used the modern orange long life (OAT)stuff for a few years - with no apparent problems but have decided to revert back to the old fashioned blue ethylene glycol stuff as there are a number of classic car owners who seem to be having issues with modern antifreezes in general.
Agreed, I used OAT for a while, until I read in a number of places that it wasn't recommended for silicone hoses, so when I changed to silicone (and it was an ideal opportunity to flush the system, as the two types shouldn't be mixed) I changed to the traditional blue type, which I use in all my cars.


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Re: SS1 - Istrian Bue 1600

Post by AJL Electronics » Tue Aug 30, 2016 9:02 am

It's not so much the silicone as the solder joints and brass components of the cooling system. Euroboxes are made with plastics, so OAT will work without causing problems.


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Re: SS1 - Istrian Bue 1600

Post by MadMax » Tue Aug 30, 2016 9:54 am

I use good ol' blue. A 5L bottle of concentrate can be had for £12 delivered off fleebay. :)


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