Manny's SS1 1600

If you have a long-term project and would like to share/document progress, this is for you.

Moderators: scimjim, philhoward, Lukeyboy46, erikscimitardemon, Roger Pennington

User avatar
manny
RSSOC Member
Posts: 1138
Joined: Sat Sep 29, 2012 10:11 pm
Location: Smethwick, West Midlands
Has thanked: 33 times
Been thanked: 18 times

Manny's SS1 1600

Post by manny » Sat Oct 27, 2018 12:52 pm

Good day all ,
Was about to have a go at adjusting the clutch - It started to snow!! So will attend to later...
Am I right in thinking someone modified their chassis so that the gearbox could removed from underneath rather than the engine bay?

Ta

Manny



User avatar
reliant-reviver
RSSOC Member
Posts: 4872
Joined: Thu Jun 14, 2007 8:05 pm
Location: Beighton, Sheffield
Has thanked: 87 times
Been thanked: 134 times

Manny's SS1 1600

Post by reliant-reviver » Sat Oct 27, 2018 1:36 pm

There are two schools of thought on cable adjustment for a ball bearing release bearing acting on a pressure plate clutch. Either no play (constant contact) with very little pressure, or a tiny bit of play (3mm in the outer as Alan suggests, which aligns with the ford guidance).

Too much play and essentially you are clashing the plain face of the release bearing onto the fingers of the pressure plate every time the clutch is pressed. Too little play or substantial positive pressure and wear of the ball bearings inside the release is accelerated plus the increased chance of clutch slip.

As for getting the gearbox out from underneath. No. Engine and box out topside.

I had an SS1 which had been chopped about underneath to get the gearbox out. Butchered would have been a better term than modified.


Philip Andrew.
'74 Robin Super Saloon, '84 SS1 1300, '86 SS1 1800ti, '87 SS1 1300
Previous: I lost count around fifty.

User avatar
MadMax
Posts: 136
Joined: Thu Aug 27, 2015 10:25 am
Has thanked: 2 times
Been thanked: 2 times

Manny's SS1 1600

Post by MadMax » Sat Oct 27, 2018 1:41 pm

Once the front of the car is removed it is a fairly easy job to pull the engine and gearbox out in 1 lump. Much rather do that than lay underneath with a gearbox on my chest!


Max Benton
Reading, Berks
'A HOT N' - Gold 1600 Small Sports
'Zeus' - Yellow SE5a

User avatar
manny
RSSOC Member
Posts: 1138
Joined: Sat Sep 29, 2012 10:11 pm
Location: Smethwick, West Midlands
Has thanked: 33 times
Been thanked: 18 times

Manny's SS1 1600

Post by manny » Fri Nov 02, 2018 9:34 pm

Good day all,

just got back from Steeton to meet Mr Wilson and pick up a HT - 270 mile round trip - all went well.... :D ..car performed very well...it loves me once more!

Ta

Manny



efi_sprintgte
RSSOC Member
Posts: 1255
Joined: Fri Oct 22, 2010 6:24 pm
Location: Sutton, Surrey
Has thanked: 108 times
Been thanked: 69 times

Manny's SS1 1600

Post by efi_sprintgte » Fri Nov 02, 2018 9:46 pm

Nice one


JC

User avatar
manny
RSSOC Member
Posts: 1138
Joined: Sat Sep 29, 2012 10:11 pm
Location: Smethwick, West Midlands
Has thanked: 33 times
Been thanked: 18 times

Manny's SS1 1600

Post by manny » Wed Dec 19, 2018 9:59 pm

Good day all,

today i took the car to work today - all was well. When leaving for home - i discovered the brake pedal would end up the floor and stop very slowly :shock: ...i made it home taking it very gingerly and making use of third gear and the hand brake .
The car does stop - but not as it should.... suspect the MC seals or servo leaking?
Will check it at the weekend.

Ta

Manny



User avatar
manny
RSSOC Member
Posts: 1138
Joined: Sat Sep 29, 2012 10:11 pm
Location: Smethwick, West Midlands
Has thanked: 33 times
Been thanked: 18 times

Manny's SS1 1600

Post by manny » Sat Dec 22, 2018 7:42 pm

Good day all,

looked into the weak brake pedal today - the brake reservoir ( section nearest the servo) was empty :shock: - i did not note any plumes of white smoke when i took the car to work in the morning ...and no obvious leaks...I filled it back up and pumped the pedal a few times...the pedal did firm up and i noted minute air bubbles...so looking forward to bleeding the brakes tomorrow- assuming the fluid is still present

Ta

Manny



User avatar
scimjim
RSSOC Member
Posts: 37439
Joined: Sun Oct 01, 2006 10:08 pm
Location: Gloucester
Has thanked: 130 times
Been thanked: 948 times

Manny's SS1 1600

Post by scimjim » Sat Dec 22, 2018 8:14 pm

I had a brake union leak on an SS1 once - pedal went to the floor as I pulled into the MOT test centre. Topped it up and it passed the brake test but we found the leak at the rear junction when the car went on the ramps. The union had been fine for nearly a year after the car was “re-chassied”.


Jim King

SECURE DRY STORAGE FOR YOUR SCIMITAR

Current: SE5 (8Ball), TI SS1 (snotty), 1600 SS1 (G97), 1600 SS1 (C686CCR), 2.5TD SE5a (diesel 5a), 6 x random other SS1s.
Previous: SE5, 3 x SE5a, 2 x SE6a, 3 x SE6b, GTC, 2.9i GTC, 3 x 1600 SS1, 1300 SS1, Mk1 Ti Sabre, Mk1.5 CVH Sabre
Chief mechanic for: 1400 K series SS1 (Megan3), 1400 CVH EFi SS1 (Grawpy), 1300 SS1 (Number One) & Sarah's coupe.
CURE THE FAULT - NOT THE SYMPTOMS

User avatar
manny
RSSOC Member
Posts: 1138
Joined: Sat Sep 29, 2012 10:11 pm
Location: Smethwick, West Midlands
Has thanked: 33 times
Been thanked: 18 times

Manny's SS1 1600

Post by manny » Sat Dec 22, 2018 8:18 pm

scimjim wrote:
Sat Dec 22, 2018 8:14 pm
I had a brake union leak on an SS1 once - pedal went to the floor as I pulled into the MOT test centre. Topped it up and it passed the brake test but we found the leak at the rear junction when the car went on the ramps. The union had been fine for nearly a year after the car was “re-chassied”.
as i had some braking - i assume it was the rear - the reservoir section furthest away from the servo was full..but will take a gander tomorrow - thank you sir..



User avatar
manny
RSSOC Member
Posts: 1138
Joined: Sat Sep 29, 2012 10:11 pm
Location: Smethwick, West Midlands
Has thanked: 33 times
Been thanked: 18 times

Manny's SS1 1600

Post by manny » Sat Jun 08, 2019 5:43 pm

Good day,

can't believe my last post was back in December 2018! - testament to the car behaving , until now..
I began to notice an intermittent squeak towards the rear of the car within the cabin...guessed at wheel bearings\drive shafts etc..then today i noticed the issue.

the passenger side wheel
Image

the driver side..
Image

Image

I'm not that heavy!

work is in progress to swap it with a spare unit ( hopefully a good'un) - once i had 'discovered' the access hatch to the top bolt.

Ta

Manny



User avatar
Rattling
RSSOC Member
Posts: 466
Joined: Mon Sep 05, 2016 9:17 pm
Location: Warwickshire
Has thanked: 2 times
Been thanked: 16 times

Manny's SS1 1600

Post by Rattling » Sat Jun 08, 2019 7:15 pm

manny wrote:
Sat Jun 08, 2019 5:43 pm
Good day,

can't believe my last post was back in December 2018! - testament to the car behaving , until now..
I began to notice an intermittent squeak towards the rear of the car within the cabin...guessed at wheel bearings\drive shafts etc..then today i noticed the issue.

the passenger side wheel
Image

the driver side..
Image

Image

I'm not that heavy!

work is in progress to swap it with a spare unit ( hopefully a good'un) - once i had 'discovered' the access hatch to the top bolt.

Ta

Manny
Is that the wheel or,wing that caused it ?


Colin

1800 Ti

User avatar
manny
RSSOC Member
Posts: 1138
Joined: Sat Sep 29, 2012 10:11 pm
Location: Smethwick, West Midlands
Has thanked: 33 times
Been thanked: 18 times

Manny's SS1 1600

Post by manny » Sat Jun 08, 2019 7:52 pm

Rattling wrote:
Sat Jun 08, 2019 7:15 pm

Is that the wheel or,wing that caused it ?
Funny you saying that - i swapped the shock unit and it seemed better, went for a 10 min drive and the squeak still occurred but not as often, but overall no improvement.
I then noted the driver side wing was sticking out at the rear sill compared to the passenger side
Passenger side
Image


driver side
Image

sill\wing join passenger
Image

Driver
Image

i was able to pull the wing outwards and the stuck out bit would then pull inwards, still not the same wheel\arch gap as the passenger side - but it would not rub against the wheel...

will take look tomorrow as to why the inner wing seems loose in comparison to the other side....
At least i can now change the shocks ( well driver rear anyway)

Ta

Manny
Last edited by manny on Sat Jun 08, 2019 7:55 pm, edited 1 time in total.



User avatar
manny
RSSOC Member
Posts: 1138
Joined: Sat Sep 29, 2012 10:11 pm
Location: Smethwick, West Midlands
Has thanked: 33 times
Been thanked: 18 times

Manny's SS1 1600

Post by manny » Sat Jun 08, 2019 7:54 pm

maybe adding some spacers between the wing and the frame will pull it upwards enough to clear the rubbing..?



User avatar
scimjim
RSSOC Member
Posts: 37439
Joined: Sun Oct 01, 2006 10:08 pm
Location: Gloucester
Has thanked: 130 times
Been thanked: 948 times

Manny's SS1 1600

Post by scimjim » Sat Jun 08, 2019 7:59 pm

No, no and no..... :D

Find out why it’s dropped first.


Jim King

SECURE DRY STORAGE FOR YOUR SCIMITAR

Current: SE5 (8Ball), TI SS1 (snotty), 1600 SS1 (G97), 1600 SS1 (C686CCR), 2.5TD SE5a (diesel 5a), 6 x random other SS1s.
Previous: SE5, 3 x SE5a, 2 x SE6a, 3 x SE6b, GTC, 2.9i GTC, 3 x 1600 SS1, 1300 SS1, Mk1 Ti Sabre, Mk1.5 CVH Sabre
Chief mechanic for: 1400 K series SS1 (Megan3), 1400 CVH EFi SS1 (Grawpy), 1300 SS1 (Number One) & Sarah's coupe.
CURE THE FAULT - NOT THE SYMPTOMS

User avatar
manny
RSSOC Member
Posts: 1138
Joined: Sat Sep 29, 2012 10:11 pm
Location: Smethwick, West Midlands
Has thanked: 33 times
Been thanked: 18 times

Manny's SS1 1600

Post by manny » Sat Jun 08, 2019 8:00 pm

scimjim wrote:
Sat Jun 08, 2019 7:59 pm
No, no and no..... :D

Find out why it’s dropped first.
oh...okay then sir.. :( :(



Post Reply

Return to “Project Progress”