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Post by Oldconn » Thu Mar 21, 2019 1:13 pm

In extremis, I can send you a plug from an Essex ( about 1975)which I no longer use. I could even send you the sump, given a few days' notice to get it off. You can have the plug gratis (free), the sump would be 25€ plus frais de poste. :) I am in France.


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Post by ericm35 » Sun Mar 24, 2019 11:38 am

Thank you, so it is in inch. The plug is in good condition so the problem is the sump tread. I will cut a new tread in metric as you, John.
I have decided to remove the sump, to cut a new tread and also because there is a leak with the sump gasket. I think it was a really good idea because I have found this :
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And there is the same dirt on the bottom's sump



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Post by ericm35 » Mon Sep 02, 2019 4:16 pm

It's been a long time since I gave any news. In fact, I have not worked on the car much but now I have a little more time and especially the desire. Since the last time the engine was removed from the car and I work with a professional who guides me. The thread of the sump cap has been redone in larger size. And I started the engine disassembly.
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I read that the camshaft gear should be changed, that there are 3 possible materials but I do not know the subject of mine witch looks in very good condition, do I really have to change it for more security ?
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Post by Oldconn » Mon Sep 02, 2019 5:00 pm

Welcome back, Eric, I hope you had a good sleep :D . The original timing gear which you have is a fibre one, which may appear to be good, but being 40 years old there is a risk it could shed its teeth. There were also some nylon or plastic ones , which were no better. Ford used them because they run silently, but they have limited life. I wouldn't use any of the early ones again, but replace with a new metal one. These can be either steel or aluminium ,depending on the supplier (your choice), and they should be purchased as a pair , to ensure that the teeth match . Metal gears will always be slightly noisy, especially during the running-in period after which they should quieten down . Most of us are using metal wheels and we find the noise level (with the bonnet closed) quiet acceptable.


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Post by philhoward » Mon Sep 02, 2019 5:01 pm

That’s the nylon version- sensible to change for alloy or steel.


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Post by Roger Pennington » Mon Sep 02, 2019 6:13 pm

Yes, I'd agree, it would be a false economy not to change it while the engine is apart.


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Post by ericm35 » Mon Sep 02, 2019 7:11 pm

Thank you.
I will look for a supplier. This time, I will post messages regulary now :-)


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Post by ericm35 » Wed Sep 11, 2019 12:42 pm

After various readings on the site, I understand that the alloy gears are less noisy than the steel ones, there does not seem to exist a lot of supplier and the prices are a little less than 200 pounds, so a little more with the transport. I will make a lot of pieces to limit the shipping costs
Tomorrow I'll spend a few hours on the engine, I'll finish disassembling it. Here is a picture I took last time, we can see that the coolant lines are blocked.
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I hope I do not have too many bad surprises afterwards

Last weekend I cleaned the gearbox. The clutch hub has suffered and the bearing is scratching a bit. Missing some metal parts on the hub. The set is to replace, curiously I have not managed to find a new piece identical.The hubs I saw seem less thick
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Post by scimjim » Wed Sep 11, 2019 1:03 pm

ericm35 wrote:
Mon Sep 02, 2019 7:11 pm
Thank you.
I will look for a supplier. This time, I will post messages regulary now :-)
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Post by scimjim » Wed Sep 11, 2019 1:07 pm

I’m not sure where you’ll find a carrier for the release bearing - perhaps secondhand only?

The clutch release bearing is different to the Ford Capri/Granada item that you’ll find advertised for Scimitars - best to buy from Club traders.


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Post by Oldconn » Wed Sep 11, 2019 3:14 pm

Try Mark Wilson( gtcse8) I seem to remember he solved this problemfor somebody else quite recently.


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Post by DARK STAR » Wed Sep 11, 2019 3:28 pm

Yes, there are (at least) two different release bearings which must match the whassname (diaphragm?) of the clutch.
Mark will know.


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Post by Old and Slow » Wed Sep 11, 2019 3:36 pm

Yes, Mark supplied me with a carrier similar to your photo but without bits missing a few weeks ago. Try him.


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Post by gtcse8 » Wed Sep 11, 2019 5:43 pm

Yes Chris
It is known as the Diaphragm, sometimes also known the Cover.
So you have the release bearing, clutch plate and diaphragm/cover in a kit.

Eric I have a few carriers and bearings left.
And a few Covers and plates for early IMPERIAL clutches, & a set for the Later METRIC type, 1974 onwards.
I Have replied to you.
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Post by ericm35 » Wed Sep 11, 2019 7:03 pm

thanks everybody, I have contacted Mark and Philip for the bearing and the timing gear !


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