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Post by monkey135 » Sat Dec 01, 2018 9:51 pm

Right, so I'll start with an introduction. I have always been a scimitar fan but until recently my classic car if choice had only 2 seats. Life has since changed and I decided I needed a 4-seater. Having spent most of my adult life with one project or another, I was after something in good condition that didn't need work.

I have been on the search for a good gte for a while. However, last weekend I acted quick and bought a 5a. It ticks most of the boxes, interior is nice, paint is presentable and it appears to have not done many miles. I brought it home and the 'boss' even gave it the seal of approval, along with 'well at least you're not going to take this one apart'..........
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So I got underneath to have a good old poke around, chassis is generally solid as appeared on viewing. Side rails and rollover bar mounts have been repaired in the past and out riggers seem ok. However, to my disappointment there is small hole in the top of the right central chassis member in the engine bay just where it heads under the body.

So, despite my desire not to have a project, guess what?....... got to love old cars.

Anyway, after an afternoon of sulking and a beer to cheer me up, I'm after some advice (and I guess some general encouragement). Can most of the chassis be repaired by cutting holes in the body? Has anyone tackled this particular area from inside?

I'm no stranger to an angle grinder, welder (was just hoping these could stay tucked away). I'm hoping I don't need the body off as I'm worried that will lead to cracking etc and effect the otherwise nice paintwork, or worse still lead to a case of, 'well seeing as the body is off I might as well just......'(followed by a divorce).

Any help or advice appreciated.

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Post by scimjim » Sat Dec 01, 2018 10:07 pm

Looks like a good car - I think the hole in the chassis is probably caused by brake/clutch fluid taking off the protective paint as you see a lot with corrosion in that spot - pretty easy to repair without taking much apart though, worst case cut a bit of GRP away for access and glue back in later?


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Post by peter freeman » Sun Dec 02, 2018 8:15 am

That is a common place for the chassis to rust - as Jim says not too bad to fix.



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Post by monkey135 » Sun Dec 02, 2018 9:59 am

Ok, thanks for the encouragement. Car generally looks really nice, I'm pleased with it. Even got a working 8-track :P

I'll get it on stands so I can get to it for a better look and take a piece out of the footwell if needed. Any other key areas to check while I'm under there?

Also, is this car on the register? Or do I need to go to a different part of the forum to check?

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Post by scimjim » Sun Dec 02, 2018 10:17 am

Gotta love an 8 track :D

I have a large number of 8 track cassettes for sale if you want any - I think frodo_monkey has some too.

Check the front jacking points/outriggers (where mud collects from the front wheels), the side rails top surface and the framework around the fuel tank at the back.

PM the SE5 registrar Elizabeth's dad, or email SE5.registrar@rssoc.co.uk


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Post by Revingtosh » Sun Dec 02, 2018 10:19 am

I saw this online for sale. If id have been after a type 5, this is the one that I would have bought - beautiful car. Well done.



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Post by Roger Pennington » Sun Dec 02, 2018 2:35 pm

Good looking car, well done! :D


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Post by monkey135 » Mon Dec 03, 2018 6:41 pm

Ok, had a good look underneath this afternoon and other than the afore mentioned issue the chassis looks nice and solid. Phew.

However, the rear shock mounts on the back axle are looking a bit crusty. Is this a common issue? Don't suppose anyone knows of a decent axle case going spare?

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Post by Coupe Racing » Mon Dec 03, 2018 7:36 pm

They can be repaired


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Post by monkey135 » Mon Dec 03, 2018 8:45 pm

No doubt they can. But it looks like you need to be careful to maintain geometry of rear suspension. Was thinking a replacement axle casing might give me an easier way out.

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Post by scimjim » Mon Dec 03, 2018 8:52 pm

QRG sell new side pieces, a few people have repaired them themselves but you’re right - a replacement axle or axle case is quicker and simpler. I’ve had one fail (on a GTC a long way from home, fully loaded with kids and kit) and it’s not fun.


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Post by Coupe Racing » Mon Dec 03, 2018 9:13 pm

I would mimic the existing parts to maintain geometry , IE use the original metal work to aid the replacement


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Post by Roger Pennington » Mon Dec 03, 2018 9:30 pm

You're right that a replacement axle would be a quicker way out. However, if your current axle is quiet and smooth, then rather than just scrapping it you may be able to sell it on to someone with the time to repair it?


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Post by AJL Electronics » Tue Dec 04, 2018 3:15 pm



Yes, we can mend your Scimitar!
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Post by monkey135 » Tue Dec 04, 2018 8:10 pm

AJL Electronics, does that just weld over the top of the current mount on either side (i.e. making it thicker overall)?

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