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Post by TrevorG » Tue Oct 16, 2018 8:20 pm

Hopefully someone has done this already or knows categorically what is legal.

The 40 year ruling exempts tax and now mot status. But.... If the car is on SORN with last mot three years ago, can it automatically get mot exemption or does it need a current mot before applying?

The exemption forms are not really clear.



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Post by rebel alliance » Tue Oct 16, 2018 8:42 pm

If your v5 says historic in the tax class.....get insurance go online to tax it (free) then a page will pop up tick one box to declare no mayor mods and thats it.You will now have one years free tax and mot exception.....no form filling or trips to the post office required



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Post by TrevorG » Tue Oct 16, 2018 10:21 pm

Sorry, I think you misunderstood the problem. Probably because I didn't explain myself thoroughly.

The car is undergoing restoration and I'm hoping to get it back on the road next summer, two months after it becomes historic. At present it is tax chargeable and needs an mot, but is on SORN with last mot three years ago. No point in putting it on the road before I get the historic classification even if I have to wait, but does it need an mot before it becomes mot exempt?



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Post by Terry H » Tue Oct 16, 2018 10:27 pm

It may help if you stated what car and what year it is.
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Post by scimjim » Tue Oct 16, 2018 10:36 pm

No, you don’t need an MOT before becoming exempt - you don’t even legally need to fill out any forms.

You will need to change the VED class to get free tax though.


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Post by BigBobPilot » Tue Oct 16, 2018 10:38 pm

No it doesn't neef an MOT. Just do as the 1st reply.


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Post by TrevorG » Wed Oct 17, 2018 12:17 am

Thanks all, it's my late 6a, built in August 79, first registered January 80 when I first purchased her. I managed to find her three years ago and purchased sight unseen but she wasn't bad although mains rumbling but existing trick robin rew engine that I had specified still in place. In the three years rats got into her and ruined electrics. At present in pieces in new garage but chassis and electrics now all done prior to engine out in a couple of days, then rebuild mechanics over winter. But if a problem, got a running spare engine. Then respray early summer. So far well on target to plan of completion on historic eligibility.

Should say that I have been building and racing velocettes and ducatis for years until I broke my back, hence all my previous posts on finding electrics as I cannot yet bend in two under a dash, easier to take it out. Lying flat not a problem. See my previous post re taking her for test drive!



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Post by scimjim » Wed Oct 17, 2018 6:19 am

Recently DVLA stopped changing the year of manufacture field and insisted that the date of registration is now the qualifying date (they haven’t changed their terminology on INF pages though). So if it was registered before 7 Jan 1980 or you have the correct build date on the V5, it can be changed to Historic Class VED in April 2020, otherwise its April 2021. MOT exemption is simply the 40 year point (Aug 2019 or Jan 2020 depending upon the V5).


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Post by upstart8s » Wed Oct 17, 2018 6:42 am

Trevor,
I can see that you are asking about the legal requirements, but don't you think it would be a good idea to have the car MOT'd after such a lay-up history? Although the test on my current 6a has expired, it has been in use (1500 miles in 15 months) and it 'feels' safe to drive, but I will be submitting it for a test as soon as I have sorted some minor issues (I'm in no great rush) and maybe then every 2 years for safety's sake.
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Post by GeoffTE » Wed Oct 17, 2018 7:36 am

upstart8s wrote:
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Trevor,
.......and maybe then every 2 years for safety's sake.
Stu
That's an interesting point, Stu. So, if I take a year off from having an MoT and then decide to put it in for one, will this be recorded by the DVLA as being MoTd? And then if I take the next year off it'll be recorded as exempt? And so on and so on?
That would be really good, but I can't believe it would work like that, would it?


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Post by TrevorG » Wed Oct 17, 2018 8:08 am

Morning all, thanks for the replies. No problem with mot then as I am definitely going to be waiting until the car is eligible for historic status even if I have to wait a year...pension won't suffer the sudden loss of road tax but I can wait....got a vintage fordson n type awaiting treatment. Time is one thing I've got now, it's cheap and patience improves with age!

On the roadworthy front, a good friend owns his own garage and mot station and has already checked over the chassis and will be rolling road the car for me with a much more rigorous look than an mot. My days as a designer and of trusting fast bikes on the limit have taught me to always have an expert's view on one's work as if you have missed something once, then you can miss it again when checking. But thanks for the comment, I agree!



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Post by upstart8s » Wed Oct 17, 2018 9:05 am

Geoff,
I don't know! that is just my expectation. Can anyone else comment?
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Post by Oldconn » Wed Oct 17, 2018 10:16 am

Geoff, as I understand it , your car is automatically MOT exempt at 40 yrs. If you go for a voluntary test, the garage will apply the same standards as they do now, but it won't be entered in the computer, they will just give you the report. It is your legal responsability to decide whether the car is roadworthy.


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Post by TrevorG » Wed Oct 17, 2018 11:14 am

Interesting, the reason that I have asked all of this is because my pal who has an mot test station which has equipment linked to the mot readout system was concerned about using said for a private test. That's why I had originally asked had anyone else actually done it. Not least there always seems to be regional variations in local DVLA stations as to how the law is interpreted (I'm unfortunately close to swansea) and knowledge of it actually being done is useful. Anyone?



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Post by Roger Pennington » Wed Oct 17, 2018 12:52 pm

scimjim wrote:
Wed Oct 17, 2018 6:19 am
Recently DVLA stopped changing the year of manufacture field and insisted that the date of registration is now the qualifying date (they haven’t changed their terminology on INF pages though). So if it was registered before 7 Jan 1980 or you have the correct build date on the V5, it can be changed to Historic Class VED in April 2020, otherwise its April 2021. MOT exemption is simply the 40 year point (Aug 2019 or Jan 2020 depending upon the V5).
Jim, I may be confused and completely missing something ( :oops: ), but shouldn't there be some extra qualification in there? I thought that MOT exemption was also dependant on the vehicle being "Historic Class" (as well as self-declared VHI) so surely the date of MOT exemption can't be before April 2020 or 2021, depending on the V5 (as per your previous sentence?


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