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Post by scimjim » Thu Aug 09, 2018 11:46 pm

The 1985 Gemballa Avalanche (yes, that was a slant nose 930 turbo :shock: )
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Post by Corky » Sun Aug 12, 2018 9:07 pm

Alfa Romeo Type 8C
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Post by scimjim » Sun Aug 12, 2018 9:30 pm

Abarth 216A Spyder, 1000SP
AC3000ME, 428 Spider II by Frua
Adams Probe 16
Alfa Romeo Iguana, P33 coupe, Caimano, 1961 Alfa Romeo Giulietta SS Spider & Coupe Speciale Aerodinamica (Pininfarina), 1936 coach type 8C 2900A
AMC Bizzarrini AMX/3
Aston Martin Lagonda
Austin Zanada
Balbo-bodied 1954 Siata 208S coupe
Bitter CD (Opel Coupé Diplomat prototype), SC
Bricklin SV-1
BMW 840/850, M1, E25 Turbo
Bordinat Cobra & Cougar 2
Bradley GT
Buick Y-Job
Burlington Centurion (also called the Urba Centurion and the Quincy-Lynn Centurion 04)
Camber GT
Chevrolet Corvette C2-C5, Indy, Aero Coupe/Scirocco, XP-898, CERV III Concept, Nivola Concept by Bertone, 1963 Corvair Testudo by Bertone, Astro 1
Citroen SM Frua, Olsen BX coupe concept
Cizeta Moroder v16t
Clan Clover and "Irish Clan"
Cord 810/812
Dardo F1.3 & F1.5 (Brazilian GRP X19 copy)
Davrian Imp (various)
De Soto (1946)
Detomaso Pantera, Guara, Montella concept (1973), Zonda, Mangusta (approx 50 cars only?)
Dodge Daytona (1987-1991) - the Shelby Z turbo II version was sold in Europe as the Chrysler GS Turbo II, Charger Daytona (1969) & 1969 Super Charger concept car, Diamante
Eagle SS
Elva GT160
Ferrari F40, 208, 275 P2 (evidence with lights up still required, 288, 308 (& rainbow concept car), 328, 348, 355, late (post 71?) 365 (Daytona/California), 375 MM Pinin Farina Coupe Speciale, 400 (and PPG Concept by I.DE.A), 408 Integrale Concept by I.DE.A, 412, 456,Testarossa, 512TR, Mondial, 512S Berlinetta Speciale (concept), CR25 (Pininfarina), Meera S (michelotti)
Fiat X1/9 (& Bertone), 125 Vignale "Samantha", 850 Dart Special Coupe Concept by Vignale, Abarth 2000 Scorpione, dino parigi by Pininfarina
Ford Probe (& 1979 Probe 1 concept car), 77 Thunderbird, SA30 (also badged Tickford), 1962 Mustang showcar
Gemballa Avalanche
Geo Storm
Ginetta G26 / G27 / G31 / G32 / G33
Gold Cirrus
GP Talon
Griffon LB
Gyro Transport Systems GyroX
Hofstetter Cortada Turbo
Holden Hurricane RD001, Torana GTR-X
Honda Prelude (2nd & 3rd gen), (Acura) NSX, (Acura) Integra (1st gen)
Ikenga (mk2 only?)
intermeccanica Indra
Iso Grifo, Lele, Varedo
Jaguar XJR15
Kelly Python
Lamborghini Miura, Countach, Diablo (90-99), Urraco, Islero, Jarama, Jalpa, Silhouette, 350 GTV, Athon, Bravo
Lancia Stratos, Beta Mizar, Beta FF V Concept, Fulvia 1600 Competizione Concept by Ghia, Sibilo, Medusa
Ligier JS2
Lincoln (Ford/Ghia) Quicksilver
Lister storm (road version)
Lombardi Grand Prix (Fiat 850 based - also called the OTAS 820), Giannini, Abarth Grand Prix and Scorpione
Lotus Esprit, Elan, Excel, Eclat, Elite (type 75 & type 83 (74-82)), M90 prototype
Malzoni GTM
Maserati Bora, Merak, Boomerang, Ghibli, Khamsin, Indy
Matra M530 (A & LX - but not the SX), Bagheera, Murena, Laser
Mazda mx-5 (mk1), RX-7, 323F, RX-500 (evidence required that this isn't a sliding cover?)
McLaren M6GT
Mercedes C111-1 & 2 (from the limited info available this may be basically the same car with a different engine?)
Mitsubishi mk1 GTO,3000GT/Dodge Stealth, Starion (also badged Dodge and Chrysler Conquest)
Morris Marina SRV2
Monteverdi Hai 450 SS
Muira Sport
Nissan Silvia S12 200SX, S13 180SX, S13 240SX, 300ZX Z31 (sort of!), Pulsar NX/EXA, Dome Zero P1 & P2, 126X, MID4 & MID4 II concepts
Opel GT, GT2
Oldsmobile Toronado
Owen Sedanca
Pangolina 444GT
Panther Solo mk1, six
Pininfarina Jaguar Spider
Piper P2
Plymouth Laser/Mitsubishi Eclipse/Eagle (Chrysler brand) Talon - 1GA models only, Road Runner (superbird)
Polski Fiat Ogar 1500, 1100 Coupe
Pontiac Firebird (1982-2002), Fiero, 1964 Banshee, 1988 Banshee
Porsche 911 flatnose, 924, 944, 968, 928, 914, 914/6 Murene, 916, Tapiro
Reliant Scimitar SS1, SST, Sabre, SE82 concept
Renault Alpine A310 Special Concept by Coggiola, Gabbiano Concept by ItalDesign, A610 - and apparently the (never sold in the USA) USA spec GTA too?
Rickman Metisse
Rover BRM gas turbine (1964 & 65)
Saab Sonett III, Viking
Simca Civic
Siva Saluki & Spyder
Sovra LM3
Subaru XT (N.America/Europe)/Alcyone (Japan)/Vortex (Aus/NZ)
Tatra MTX
Tornado M6GTR
Toyota MR2 (and the SV-3 concept it came from), supra (mk2 on), 2000GT, Celica (3rd,4th and 5th gen cars), AE86 Sprinter Trueno.
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UVA M6GTR (and "Norwich Union" Mirov II), F33 Can-Am
Vauhall XVR concept
Vegantune Evante
Venturi Atlantique
Volvo 480
Wolfrace Sonic
Zender Vision 1S Concept
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Post by PeteMac » Mon Aug 13, 2018 3:55 pm

That's a comprehensive list! Might want to add the Mangusta to the DeTomaso list - a small number (about 50 US-destined, 1970 examples according to Wikipedia) had popups instead of the more common four headlamp arrangement.
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Post by PeteMac » Mon Aug 13, 2018 4:18 pm

Owen Sedanca (As you may have guessed, work is not holding my attention today. :D )


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Post by scimjim » Mon Aug 13, 2018 4:38 pm

Do they pop up or are they the same as the lancia montecarlo that had to have “eyelids” because the original lights didn’t pass US laws?
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Mon Aug 13, 2018 3:55 pm
That's a comprehensive list! Might want to add the Mangusta to the DeTomaso list - a small number (about 50 US-destined, 1970 examples according to Wikipedia) had popups instead of the more common four headlamp arrangement.

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Post by scimjim » Mon Aug 13, 2018 4:43 pm

That Jag based HR Owen car looks nice - Wikipedia says two built plus one prototype but a quick google seems to show four or five?


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Post by scimjim » Mon Aug 13, 2018 4:49 pm

It looks like the light itself does move a little, so I’ll add it :-)
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scimjim wrote:
Mon Aug 13, 2018 4:38 pm
Do they pop up or are they the same as the lancia montecarlo that had to have “eyelids” because the original lights didn’t pass US laws?
PeteMac wrote:
Mon Aug 13, 2018 3:55 pm
That's a comprehensive list! Might want to add the Mangusta to the DeTomaso list - a small number (about 50 US-destined, 1970 examples according to Wikipedia) had popups instead of the more common four headlamp arrangement.

mangusta.jpg


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Post by PeteMac » Mon Aug 13, 2018 7:42 pm

It looks like the light itself does move a little, so I’ll add it :-)
The raised lights do sit a fair bit higher than the originals. Being (allegedly) made for the US market, it's seems likely they were added to meet US regs. Shame, as they certainly don't look as neat as the originals. Wouldn't turn one down though! :D


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Post by scimjim » Mon Aug 13, 2018 7:52 pm

Lancia had the same problem - I thought they just had moving eyebrows but I’m not so sure from this picture?
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Post by PeteMac » Mon Aug 13, 2018 7:59 pm

You perhaps wouldn't expect to find a video of the lights in action - that's until you remember Herbie fell in love with one :D


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Post by Roger Pennington » Tue Aug 14, 2018 12:01 am

PeteMac wrote:
Mon Aug 13, 2018 4:18 pm
Owen Sedanca (As you may have guessed, work is not holding my attention today. :D )
Interesting that the Owen Sedanca came from the pen of Chris Humberstone, the same man who was behind the Rapport Forte that I mentioned in the "what cars have you seen?" thread. :)

I saw one of the Sedancas in a Jaguar display at a show at Brooklands, some years ago.
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Looks as though the prototype (originally HRO1) is for sale on Classic Cars for Sale


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Post by guybetts » Tue Aug 14, 2018 9:17 pm

Lamborghini Bravo
(Reminds me of the Aston Martin Bulldog, except on that the cover dropped)
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Post by PeteMac » Fri Aug 17, 2018 8:37 am

This just 'popped' up on Facebook - Lister Storm
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Post by scimjim » Wed Sep 19, 2018 8:31 pm

Thanks to Ben C on Facebook - Renault 14 concept (also linked to Ligier and possibly called “Ika”) - more to follow if I can find an English page or translate the French pages I’ve found :D

Not this Renault 14 concept / Ligier
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Nor this rotary powered Renault 14 concept /Ligier
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This one :D
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The idea was proposed by Robert Grind (designer of the R12 & R14) in 1973/74, for a common floor plan and nose section with 3 different rear end styles. It was shelved until Ligier finished building the SM for Citroen and Guy Ligier looked around for more work. A schedule was agreed - prototype in Apr 76, launch of prototype in Paris in Oct 76, small run of 250 vehicles by Jan 77 ready for marketing at the Geneva show the same year. After the first (and only) car was built, the Oct 76 launch was changed to four cars (2 test, 2 show cars) but the project was shelved - allegedly because the R15 & R17 were doing so well?
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the shooting brake version made it to prototype stage
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