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Post by Alan SS1 » Sun Jan 27, 2019 3:37 pm

Alan SS1 wrote:
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I got a document through from DVLA / FBHVC fro folk to carry in case the tarffic officer wasn't 'au-fait'

it is a word doc so not sure how it will look?
DVLA statement on declaration with Press Release 23.01.19.docx
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I assume it's these documents ? :D


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Post by scimjim » Sun Jan 27, 2019 4:34 pm

What are the police going to charge you with - driving an MOT exempt vehicle without a current MOT? :D


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Post by Alan SS1 » Sun Jan 27, 2019 6:48 pm

scimjim wrote:
Sun Jan 27, 2019 4:34 pm
What are the police going to charge you with - driving an MOT exempt vehicle without a current MOT? :D
I think it's just to stop them hauling you away to the local nick to apply the thumb screws? :shock: :w


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Post by peter freeman » Wed Sep 11, 2019 5:07 pm

Last year while getting the tax I clicked the box to confirm the car was over 40yrs old. I then had it MOTd as normal. This year I coud not see a box and as I have only done 800miles in it and still not got it back together ( not had the time ) does it need a MOT or as it was listed as being over 40 last year does the no need to have it done carry over. Because of the low mileage I am doing I had thought about having a MOT every 2 years. I do understand that if it fails its MOT it cannot be used.



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Post by scimjim » Wed Sep 11, 2019 5:23 pm

The tick box isn't to say it’s over 40, it’s to declare it isn’t modified (outside of the VHI rules).

MOT exemption is automatic at 40 but you have to declare VHI when you tax it (just to confuse everyone).

No idea why the page didn’t come up when you taxed it though, supposed to be automatic.


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Post by Dcrosby13 » Wed Sep 11, 2019 5:26 pm

you can re-run the page and tick the box, thats what I had to do with my GTE.


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Post by Terry H » Wed Sep 25, 2019 10:17 am

What a faff. I taxed my 1977 MGB GT earlier this month because the tax was due, and yes I did tick the box where it mentions alterations to the vehicle, there is none. It's tax exempt and taxed on line as Historic so no problem, MOT was up yesterday though the fact that the car has been on this planet for 42 years means it was MOT exempt last year giving (it a year of use for it to be a year old). Any way tried to get MOT exemption on line but it shows it as "This vehicle's MOT has expired You can be fined up to £1000 for driving without a valid MOT"
I rang the DVLA to get this changed only to be told to contact the DVSA and was given 03001239000 to ring for help. unfortunately this number is an automated service where you are given information and then told to hang up then the line goes dead. I tried that three times and also rang the DVLA three times only to be told there is nothing they can do as I have to contact the DVSA. I have now SORN'd the car in the hope that I can get it shown as MOT exempt if I tax it at a Post Office using form V112. Sorry this is a long post but have to vent my frustration somewhere.
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Post by scimjim » Wed Sep 25, 2019 10:37 am

Once again - you do not need to do ANYTHING to gain MOT exemption when your car is 40.

Every time you tax it, you will have to confirm it’s VHI.

That is all.


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Post by scimjim » Wed Sep 25, 2019 10:41 am

Here’s a screen shot of 8 ball - I haven’t MOTd it since 2015.

The DVSA site correctly shows that the MOT has expired (and it says “ this vehicle may be MOT exempt”) but the DVLA site recognises that it’s over 40 and says no MOT results returned - but note that the box is now green, not red.
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Post by philhoward » Wed Sep 25, 2019 11:00 am

Terry - you’re expecting different government agencies talk to each other - they just blame each other.


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Post by Roger Pennington » Wed Sep 25, 2019 1:19 pm

The system is still "fuzzy" in the case of cars which are in theory eligible for MOT Exemption, but not yet Tax Exempt (Historic Class). Consider the case of the mulberry car. It was built in Feb '79 according to the chassis number, and first registered in April '79. It is therefore over 40, but not eligible for tax exemption till April 2020.

Now in May this year, due to the fact that it was suffering from a running problem, it was SORNed and the MOT had expired. In May the running problem was apparently resolved, so I wanted to take it off SORN so I could take it for a test run or two. (I still planned to take it for a voluntary MOT once I knew it was ok). So I went online, and the system refused to allow me to tax it, without a valid MOT.

I contacted DVLA and they said that as the "build date" on the V5 is simply shown as "1979" then they wouldn't consider it MOT exempt until 31st December 2019 (notwithstanding the fact that it had been registered in April '79!). They offered to change the "build date" on the V5 to the exact build date, as long as I could tell them the build date to an accuracy of the day. At this point I gave up, drove it to the MOT station SORNed and MOT less, then re-taxed it online as soon as it passed the MOT.

So the problem is now resolved (though anyone else in the same position could have the same problem), and next year it won't be a problem as the car will be Historic Class, so the system should work correctly. But it does mean I didn't in fact get "MOT Exemption" from my car's 40th birthday.

The lunatics do seem to have taken over the asylum...... :roll:

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Post by scimjim » Wed Sep 25, 2019 1:23 pm

Roger Pennington wrote:
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I contacted DVLA and they said that as the "build date" on the V5 is simply shown as "1979" then they wouldn't consider it MOT exempt until 31st December 2019 (notwithstanding the fact that it had been registered in April '79!).
you should have asked to speak to someone else at this point! There have been problems with doing it online - you can take a V112 to a post office and do it there (if you have a PO that knows what they’re doing!)


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Post by rebel alliance » Wed Sep 25, 2019 1:48 pm

Just taxed my built sometime in 79 but first registered 1st aug 79 6a for 6 months...Went to PO with v5 insurance and money filled in form v112 ticked box stating over 40 years old (box R) ..got tax binned form v112 on the way out as they don't keep it .



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Post by Roger Pennington » Wed Sep 25, 2019 2:10 pm

I haven't been to a post office for car tax ever since it became possible to do it online (which is a long time ago now). Since they introduced DD payments I've always done it that way, as it makes it much easier for budgeting (and you don't even have to go online anymore). The mulberry car only fell off that system because when the MOT expired, they bounced the DD.


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Post by rebel alliance » Wed Sep 25, 2019 5:35 pm

Same here but as you found if its not down as historic on the V5 then even though its 40+ you have to use a PO...



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