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Sold A car??

Post by petermisy » Mon Jul 17, 2017 8:29 pm

Ok, So I had this project MGB GT not sure why I bought it in the first place really, I suppose I felt sorry for it and it was local. But having sat in it...it isn't a Scimitar is it??

It was rusty, and needed the sills and floor replacing both sides and I just was not finding the time, so put it on Ebay describing all it's faults plus of course the good bits.

Well, I have sold it, and I must say for a healthy profit which will in turn will enable me to spend some more with our trusted suppliers at Curborough in a few weeks!

Now, I am in Kent, and the purchaser is in Salford, so no, he has not seen it. It is being collected by a third party transport firm.

He wants a receipt, fair enough, but what do I say on said receipt? Sold as seen? he has not seen it! Also, when I just googled the problem, apparently it is illegal to sell a car which is not road worthy! how can that be? many people buy basket cases and most of them are Scimitars :D

Can anyone give me a paragraph of words that I can put on an invoice or receipt of sale please?

Thanks for any help

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Re: Sold A car??

Post by scimjim » Mon Jul 17, 2017 8:41 pm

Yep, 3 rules for selling private:

The seller must have the right to sell the car.
The vehicle should match the description given by the seller.
The car must be roadworthy – it is a criminal offence to sell an unroadworthy car.

These are "consumer rights" but aren't part of the "Consumer Rights Act" - which doesn't apply to private sales, so "sold as seen" is perfectly adequate - it's the buyers fault that he hasn't seen it, not yours.

Basically the only recourse they have is court and providing you haven't deliberately misled them you have nothing to worry about.


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Re: Sold A car??

Post by petermisy » Mon Jul 17, 2017 9:04 pm

Hi Jim thanks for that.

But the car is not roadworthy, so can I not sell it?

I made that clear

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Post by J55 JGL » Mon Jul 17, 2017 9:16 pm

We have sold a few cars in a not fit for road and sold them as scrap for spares or repair


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Re: Sold A car??

Post by petrolbob » Mon Jul 17, 2017 9:26 pm

A large number of cars appear to be advertised "Spares or repair", probably to avoid litigation, which in my view is perfectly fair.
Personally I would word the receipt as - "Sold as clearly described needing repair and restoration" which your sale description covers.


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Re: Sold A car??

Post by petermisy » Tue Jul 18, 2017 9:07 pm

Thanks all I have worded it as seen and for repair/restoration and for it to be trailered away
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Re: Sold A car??

Post by Chgperformance » Tue Jul 18, 2017 9:11 pm

i know of a few car dealers that sell every car sold as seen even though they have just had full MOT's, even seen them sold as spares/repairs when they are perfectly good cars with MOT's. I presume its to try and avoid problems.



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Re: Sold A car??

Post by ScimmyMike » Wed Jul 19, 2017 3:41 pm

Chgperformance wrote:i know of a few car dealers that sell every car sold as seen even though they have just had full MOT's, even seen them sold as spares/repairs when they are perfectly good cars with MOT's. I presume its to try and avoid problems.
First bit certainly woudn't allow them to dodge any trading legislation for certain which is what I'm guessing is their aim, sadly too few people know their full rights so they get away with it.


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Re: Sold A car??

Post by AnotherTim » Wed Jul 19, 2017 3:55 pm

I do believe 'project' is a significant word in terms of a legally recognised descriptor of a non-roadworthy car.

I have always described the old cars I have sold as being a 'project' for restoration and repair, even if there wasn't anything wrong with them at the time of sale.


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