SS1 Springs

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SS1 Springs

Post by reliant-reviver » Wed Sep 15, 2010 11:02 am

As I'm sure most of you are aware, I had a batch of uprated front springs made in May this year. Having sold them all straight away I am now having another batch made.
Just to refresh your memory.
The original Reliant SS1 springs are 180lbs/in and 12.2" free length (or 6" between the front jacking point and the ground when fitted)
The last batch I had made were 275lbs/in and 10.8" free length (5.5" ride height)

I am now looking to have the following made -
Road spec: 250lbs/in -10mm ride height
Fast Road spec: 300lbs/in -15mm ride height.

How do these figures sound to people? Any input welcome!


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Re: SS1 Springs

Post by chats371 » Wed Sep 15, 2010 11:29 am

Put me down for a set. What was the price on those again?.

I think I would go for a set of the road spec ones

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Re: SS1 Springs

Post by CNHSS1 » Wed Sep 15, 2010 11:57 am

re spring rates, 250lb to 300lb is a 50lb rate increase at the spring, but only equates to approx to 15lb rate increase at the wheel (wheel rate). In actuality, you may struggle to tell the two apart in use.


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Re: SS1 Springs

Post by reliant-reviver » Wed Sep 15, 2010 12:09 pm

I'm pretty set on the "Road spec" ones. But still playing with the final figures on the "fast road spec" springs. Craig, would you perhaps suggest I up them to say 325 or even 350lbs?
I had a set of 350lb springs fitted to my red Ti (VTO) and although it was last used (briefly!) in 2008 I do recall it being pretty damn solid. Maybe I'll have to fit them to one of my roadcars and go out for a "play" to review them.


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Re: SS1 Springs

Post by CNHSS1 » Wed Sep 15, 2010 12:31 pm

drop me an email Phil, and i will work out the rates properly for you when at home, but off out of office now.

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Re: SS1 Springs

Post by tonypenfold » Thu Sep 16, 2010 12:41 pm

Hi Phil
As mentioned in PM,you can put me as a definite pair of Road Springs.
I`m too old these days for getting my teeth rattled!
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Re: SS1 Springs

Post by philhoward » Thu Sep 16, 2010 1:33 pm

Based on the two choices, i'll go for the softer option of 250..


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Re: SS1 Springs

Post by reliant-reviver » Thu Sep 16, 2010 1:35 pm

Not feeling so youthfull Phil?
I'm not looking for pre-orders this time, so people can make up their minds when the springs are ready for sale :D


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Re: SS1 Springs

Post by philhoward » Thu Sep 16, 2010 1:40 pm

I prefer the Colin Chapman method - harder damping (and ARB's) and not-so-hard springs...


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Re: SS1 Springs

Post by Coco La Blanc » Sat Sep 18, 2010 9:14 pm

Philip,
I have been running on the following Uprated Springs since arriving at Curborough 2010 and am, after a few minor adjustments to the rear height settings, very pleased with the resulting much improved ride :-

Front Springs - 275lbs / 10.8" - Superb on the road (Spax Shockers / Hard Red Race Polybushes to Wishbones & Anti-Roll Bar)
with a firm but very comfortable ride.

Rear Springs - 300lbs / 8" - Rear much more stable on acceleration and doesn't squat on takeoff (AVO Adjustables with
AVO (directly supplied) Springs.

The whole car seems to be much more balanced and enjoyable to drive with your Front springs allied to my very recently installed Upgraded/Strengthened NEW Front Wishbones using hard race polybushes particularly as I have also been running for some time with the 'Phil Howard' Big Brake Upgrade and can therefore use the performance improvements.
I would like you to order three more sets of this spec spring for me. Many thanks for your efforts.
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Re: SS1 Springs

Post by tonypenfold » Sun Sep 19, 2010 1:22 pm

That sounds a bit of an unusual setup,Viv,with harder springing at the rear.
But it`s a very personal thing,anyway.



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Re: SS1 Springs

Post by Coco La Blanc » Sun Sep 19, 2010 7:02 pm

Tony,
Two other Noggin members took their Sabres to AVO for weighing and setup testing. The resultant AVO decision was to suggest 300lbs/8" Rear Springs but they could not supply the Front springs. The rears were used for a trip down to the "Le Mans 24Hrs" in a friend's Sabre with a heavy load and for thrashing around the local roads whilst down there and the outcome was very positive particularly as I was also was allowed to take it out for a few drives. I subsequently decided to combine these AVO Rear Springs (including a pair of new Adjustable Rear AVO Shockers) with Philip's uprated Fronts Springs (as my standard Springs were too soft IMO ie. for normal or spirited road going or Autotest or Trackdays) along with my Red Race Polybushes and my New Wishbones in readiness for Curborough however due to a particularly difficult/stubborn Upper Bolt on the p/s Upper Wishbone I was rather late turning up and so was unable to fully test my setup on the Trackday nor the Autotest until fairly recently. As previously stated I am extremely pleased with the much improved ride and handling and although firmer it is by no means harsh in any way. I have had a few other Sabre/SS1 Owners test drive the car and all have been highly impressed I do however still want to get a Trackday session in to fully verify the setup.
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Re: SS1 Springs

Post by AJL Electronics » Sun Sep 19, 2010 7:12 pm

Bear in mind that 300Lb on the back with *standard* fronts is something of a handful, actually quite dangerous in my opinion, due to the oversteer it provokes.


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Re: SS1 Springs

Post by Coco La Blanc » Sun Sep 19, 2010 7:24 pm

If you haven't driven my car how can you make that statement ? I have very little understeer whatsoever ! I repeat the drive is superb !
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Re: SS1 Springs

Post by AJL Electronics » Sun Sep 19, 2010 7:31 pm

Maybe you need to read the statement again then? I actually put this setup on my car after being advised by AVO that this was a good thing to do, despite my opinion that it was unbalanced. I started with 300 on the back which were dangerous in terms of oversteer and then came down through 250 and 225 to 200 which seem fine. With uprated front springs it may well be another matter, but I was running standard fronts.


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