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LHD SE5a for sale in Germany

Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2019 9:01 pm
by DARK STAR
It says it is an original left hand drive, but the wipers apparently are not ?

https://www.classic-trader.com/fr/voitu ... 971/157509

LHD SE5a for sale in Germany

Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2019 9:12 pm
by philhoward
I didn’t think any factory LHD 5a’s were made at all? SE5, yes. SE6, yes. I’ve seen conversions but that’s it.

LHD SE5a for sale in Germany

Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2019 9:18 pm
by philhoward
Yep - that’s a “hand-modified” dash. Also hand crafted door cards as the door pull was either a Mini one at the top, or the Escort ones half way up the door.

LHD SE5a for sale in Germany

Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2019 10:29 pm
by roymck
That’s weird , thats a 5A underbonnet and modified interior but 5 rear lights and reversing lights .

LHD SE5a for sale in Germany

Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2019 10:43 pm
by scimjim
Bitsa car :D

LHD SE5a for sale in Germany

Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2019 2:23 pm
by _Zeb_
And the passenger seems the only one able to open the bonnet :D

LHD SE5a for sale in Germany

Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2019 3:06 pm
by erikscimitardemon
Looks like an se5 to me. The VIN is a 45****. So it SHOULD be an se5.
Engine has a rear sump. The dash is clearly a non-professional job. The fact it looks like an se5a should not be a real problem, as it is a later mod anyway. The speedo is a MLS one and not a KM/H. That is worrying to me. It does not looks like an original LHD. That specific VIN is not on my list of LHD se5.
I am afraid this is a car with a mixed identity. It is very unlikely to be an factory LHD car. It is a mix of se5 and se5a styles.
Then again, the car looks very tidy so I guess it is a good car.

LHD SE5a for sale in Germany

Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2019 3:21 pm
by _Zeb_
It seems in a very good condition, for sure, but the conversion from RHD to LHD could be an issue and it has to be notified.
I don't know in other countries, but in France, in case of a major incident (with injured peoples for example), the insurance companies may use this modification as a way to void the contract (ok, for a Scimitar, you must find a real expert, but, when big amounts of money are involved they find them).
This is a common modification on MGB or Lotus Elise however I find that it doesn't worth the risk.

LHD SE5a for sale in Germany

Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2019 3:22 pm
by scimjim
Unfortunately, there are far more modifications on this car than simply converted from RHD to LHD :shock: they may have been carried out very well - and they’re certainly legal in UK (apart from the claim that it’s 1971) - but they should be declared by the seller and I’d want to inspect the rest of it very carefully :D

LHD SE5a for sale in Germany

Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2019 3:37 pm
by philhoward
Just noticed the front seats don't match either - one SE5, one later 5a.. and the rear lights almost look photoshopped on? There's a funny border around them (unless that's making SE5 lights fit in a 5a hole)?

Chassis certainly won't have a 1971 chassis number stamped on it but seems to be more aligned with the engine and gearbox suggesting a post-72 car (has the later cross plate instead of the mountings for the tubular crossmember which fits under the engine when it has a front sump engine). Might have even been an auto previously based on the funny wiring block around the gearbox?

Nothing about that car suggests it's a 1971 to me - in part or whole. Even the reversing lamps look wrong?

LHD SE5a for sale in Germany

Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2019 4:51 pm
by scimjim
That’s a relay isn’t it? Probably on the overdrive circuit?

LHD SE5a for sale in Germany

Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2019 4:57 pm
by philhoward
Possibly - but you don't usually have a relay. Wiring goes from (one of) the overdrive switch(es), through the 3/4 enable switch under the linkage and to the overdrive solenoid.

LHD SE5a for sale in Germany

Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2019 6:42 pm
by Roger Pennington
philhoward wrote:
Mon Feb 25, 2019 3:37 pm
and the rear lights almost look photoshopped on? There's a funny border around them (unless that's making SE5 lights fit in a 5a hole)?
A number of the photos are fairly poor quality, and look as though they've been edited to reduce burnt-out highlights and blocked-up shadows; if overdone, that can often result in "haloes" around changes in light level. So I suspect it might be that? I've just noticed the engine appears to have an Se6/6a thermostat housing.....

LHD SE5a for sale in Germany

Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2019 8:48 pm
by DARK STAR
My spies say that there was an SE5a in Denmark 30 years ago which the owner converted to lhd - with difficulty.
The vinyl covering on the dashboard could be hiding all sorts of botches.
Denmark is not far from Hamburg ...

LHD SE5a for sale in Germany

Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2019 3:38 pm
by erikscimitardemon
DARK STAR wrote:
Mon Feb 25, 2019 8:48 pm
My spies say that there was an SE5a in Denmark 30 years ago which the owner converted to lhd - with difficulty.
The vinyl covering on the dashboard could be hiding all sorts of botches.
Denmark is not far from Hamburg ...
That car was a blue car with a 'proper' registration. It was sold in the UK about 20 years ago, traded to something else British classic. Where it went, I don't know. Surely not in the Netherlands or Belgium.