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moi - me - myself and "l'auto "

Post by hotrubber007 » Tue Dec 06, 2011 1:04 pm

Salut ,
je me promené off and on en belgique depuis 15 ans. Elle est de 1971 - manuelle et semble me "coller".
La peinture fut le plus difficile- surtout que mon peintre "sélectionné" est parti en vacances juste quand il fallait pas....
Enfin j'ai pas trop de réactions 5 ans aprés et un bon eclat. Sur le point de tout les jours j'ai encore jamais rencontré une autre en belgique. Souvent je tracte les minis cooper avec sur notre plateau ( ici chez go-mini.be ) et cela fait sourire pas mal de monde.
Ce V6 ford serait mieux placé au fond de la mer comme ancre - mais j'ai encore jamais eu le temps ou le besoin de mettre un vrai groupe propulsion sous ce capot.
Pour l'instant je pense plutot vers le bmw / rover 2.0d - quelqu'un joue a ça pour l'instant?

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Post by French Coupé » Tue Dec 06, 2011 4:45 pm

Salut,

"Pour l'instant je pense plutot vers le bmw / rover 2.0d - quelqu'un joue a ça pour l'instant?"

Mettre un 2.0 diesel dans une Scimitar, c'est une blague belge ça? No offence intented! :)


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Post by MikeyBikey » Tue Dec 06, 2011 4:54 pm

Is he suggesting putting a german 2.0d in a scimitar............. :shock:


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Post by scimjim » Tue Dec 06, 2011 5:01 pm

the BMW M47 - cracking engine IMHO but calling the Essex a boat anchor and then suggesting fitting a diesel is a little strange :-)


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Post by td99 » Tue Dec 06, 2011 8:35 pm

Probably better mpg and maybe performance than an antique essex. And diesel is so much cheaper than petrol.


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Post by scimjim » Thu Dec 08, 2011 12:22 am

td99 wrote:Probably better mpg and maybe performance than an antique essex. And diesel is so much cheaper than petrol.
absolutely - but calling it a boat anchor is surely aimed at it's weight?


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Post by Roger Pennington » Thu Dec 08, 2011 12:38 am

td99 wrote: And diesel is so much cheaper than petrol.
Is that true in this country? I wouldn't know, I never buy diesel :)


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Post by scimjim » Thu Dec 08, 2011 9:42 am

Diesel's about 10p a litre more expensive than 95RON in UK.


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Post by westy » Thu Dec 08, 2011 10:23 am

I might be wrong, but I think that initially, the Essex was built to become a diesel engine as well...
Then for various reasons, that project was given up.
Maybe it explains, at least partially, why the Essex is so heavy.
But to compare it to an anchor is IMHO a bit exaggerated :)


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Post by Elizabeth's dad » Thu Dec 08, 2011 11:02 am

Yes, the story is that the Essex was initially designed to be a diesel.

I've always assumed that the 'boat anchor' reference was p[artly due to weight and partly due to the simplicity (crudity?) of the engine?


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Post by toomanysabres » Thu Dec 08, 2011 11:09 am

scimjim wrote:Diesel's about 10p a litre more expensive than 95RON in UK.
Not in France/Belgium it isn't.


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Post by westy » Thu Dec 08, 2011 11:17 am

Absolutely, there's still a gap between "gazole" (for diesel engines) and "SP95" (unleaded fuel) prices here.
http://www.prix-carburants.gouv.fr/
One of the main reasons : ... If gazole price goes up too much, lorry drivers will go on strike and block the country :D


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Post by toomanysabres » Thu Dec 08, 2011 11:20 am

However if it was even cheaper, farmers would be more inclined to use it to set fire to straw all over the road.


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Post by westy » Thu Dec 08, 2011 11:37 am

:lol: :lol: :lol:
so true...


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Re: moi - me - myself and "l'auto "

Post by hotrubber007 » Thu Dec 15, 2011 11:29 am

Hi people,

yes i was actually referring to the Cowley / english 2.0 d in various land rover - bmw and mg -rovers.
Much more powerfull, efficient, and easily tunable. The essex V6 is in my mind probably the least "sexy" 6 cylinder engine of the 60's. My triumps (vitesse & gt6 ) have silky smooth running and much the same power for 2.5 l . Port design and ludicrous mould design makes for 'boat anchor ' usage preferred application.

Anybody here find even the exhaust note sexy ? , or it's high reving abilities appealing?

I've also thought and looked at 5cyl fiat 20v (as per the coupe ) but i rather 'feel' like going the diesel route - for what is a GTE not a GTi .

As ever in North south applications the main issue is that gearbox - german gertrag is not the same as my overdrive.

Anyone seen a 2.0d in another application - come kit car ? i think PPC ran a series with a diesel westfield no ?

cheers chris



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